Ernesto Valverde

[Andresito]

Are we still talking about this bum?

Always the same troll bumping Valverde threads. Ban him.

 

[Katarina1]

yeah, because it was HIS squad that he built over his tenure and on which he instilled a LOSING CL mentality that suffered that defeat. setien got what, 3 maybe 4 months with the squad, with the COVID break in between? that defeat was ultimately EV's.

also, historic CL humiliations are EV's specialty. dont ever forget that

Valverde didn't build that squad and we were humiliated away to PSG and Juve before he took over. Vidal was probably the only of the signings that was down to EV.

 

[BarcaOG]

And he failed at everything Valverde did, only to an even worse extent.
First attempt, and he failed at everything, even on things that Valverde never failed at.

Imagine actually comparing the Betis-reject to Valverde, who`s at least a competent manager.

they both failed. both are bottom tier managers. yes, i am comparing the two. they are both shit. but EV is worse because most of are problems are ultimately of his making

 

[BarcaOG]

Valverde didn't build that squad and we were humiliated away to PSG and Juve before he took over. Vidal was probably the only of the signings that was down to EV.

and what a masterful signing that was, lol. EV was shit just accept it. worst manager in the post-ronnie era

 

[Messigician]

they both failed. both are bottom tier managers. yes, i am comparing the two. they are both shit. but EV is worse because most of are problems are ultimately of his making

Deluded

 

[BarcaOG]

Deluded

nope, and the fact that this thread is titled what it is (not by me) shows the minority is you and your clone account katerina

 

[Katarina1]

nope, and the fact that this thread is titled what it is (not by me) shows the minority is you and your clone account katerina

The people who support the thread title were the same ones saying that we would become a top 2-3 team in Europe playing amazing football if we just sacked EV.

 

[Messigician]

The people who support the thread title were the same ones saying that we would become a top 2-3 team in Europe playing amazing football if we just sacked EV.

This. We had the best team in the world and that pesky Valverde was holding us back.

People acting already losing Laliga is fine lmfao with Messi SE should be calling for every title, period!

 

[Gnidrologist]

Will you ever get tired of simping for Fraudverde, fraudician?

 

[Birdy]

Give Koeman prime Messi, decent Suarez, decent Busi, and who knows where we would be. I would think a CL+Liga in 2019 and we make it to finals in 2018 CL losing or barely beating RM.

+ he might have clinged LaLiga last season from an awful RM

 

[BarcaOG]

This. We had the best team in the world and that pesky Valverde was holding us back.

People acting already losing Laliga is fine lmfao with Messi SE should be calling for every title, period!

EV did nothing for our team, he was clueless the entire time. what he had was a very good pre-decline messi. also can one of the mods ban messigician's second account katerina...one of him is annoying and unnecessary enough

 

[Messigician]

EV did nothing for our team, he was clueless the entire time. what he had was a very good pre-decline messi. also can one of the mods ban messigician's second account katerina...one of him is annoying and unnecessary enough

I don't have any alts. Everyone with a brain knows my posting style is distinct from others users. If you want to play detective there's thread out there already for spotting alts.

 

[Blackened]

Messigician is right. You have to be realistic. An ageing squad, ageing Messi... This is not the all-conquering Barca of 2011. That time is long gone. The only way of getting results with this squad is to play slow, cautious football. Ernesto knew it. He achieved the absolute most he could.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Messigician is right. You have to be realistic. An ageing squad, ageing Messi... This is not the all-conquering Barca of 2011. That time is long gone. The only way of getting results with this squad is to play slow, cautious football. Ernesto knew it. He achieved the absolute most he could.

Thats true, even with Luis Enrique we got smashed two times against Juve 0-3 and PSG 0-4. This team was too bad for fast and direct football. The only match which was embarrassing was Roma match as we have defend instead of attacking, you cant lose 0-3 when you have won the first leg 4-1. In the anfield match we got several chances but didnt take advantage from them.

 

[BarcaOG]

Messigician is right. You have to be realistic. An ageing squad, ageing Messi... This is not the all-conquering Barca of 2011. That time is long gone. The only way of getting results with this squad is to play slow, cautious football. Ernesto knew it. He achieved the absolute most he could.

false. messi was very good under EV and with the proper coaching and signings around him we could have done much better. were we going to be 2011 barca? of course not. but we could have been much better than EV's shitty, slow paced, unattractive and CL-failing squad. by that logic we might as well close the club because messi is old .