Ernesto Valverde

George_Costanza

Active member
Awesome. And when unproven Dembele gets injured, you have another unproven forward sub for that. Great way to win the champions league

Liverpool won without Salah, Firmino who were replaced with Divock Origi (scored 2 goals) and Shaqiri. Robertson was replaced by Wijnaldum (scored 2 goals).
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Tragedy. He might have the best Barca rosters in the last 5 years in his hands. Disaster. Valverde is the wrong guy to lead this team.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Conte becomes manager and immediately black balls Icardi. That's what we need.

I am sure Shitverde will not make any drastic changes.
 

serghei

Senior Member
:lol: Valverde's tactics summarized, as per video:

Everyone back and pray for Messi to do something in offense.

Valverde's offensive sub vs Roma: Dembele in at 0-3 - losing position in the tie
Valverde's offensive sub vs Liverpool: Malcom in at 0-4 - losing position in the tie.

What does that mean?

It means Valverde cares about scoring goals other than through Messi doing something magical, only when the defense has already failed to do its job. Attacking is only important, after the defense has completely collapsed.

What does this mean for Valverde:

- coward
- negativistic
- defensive
- persistent in his mistakes
- unimaginative in offense
- unexperienced in Europe (or else he'd know teams that park the bus rarely win in the Champions League)
- unappreciative for the Barcelona philosophy which is built on attacking football

That's the manager some otherwise reputable posters here are supporting.
 
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FC B

Senior Member
Liverpool won without Salah, Firmino who were replaced with Divock Origi (scored 2 goals) and Shaqiri. Robertson was replaced by Wijnaldum (scored 2 goals).

Sure but Liverpool has a manager under which no name players play like world class ones while we have a manager under which star/world class players often play like no name ones. Klopp vs. Valverde difference is what it costed Barca the CL.
 

Kul_z

Senior Member
With neymar obviously coming, this fool would have a spaceship under his command.

Ter stegen, neto, pique, lenglet, umtiti, alba, semedo, roberto, busquets, de jong, arthur, vidal, rakitic(?), dembele, griezmann, suarez, neymar, messi.

18 players.

Thats the most frightening roster in the last decade or more. Under any decent manager those players would wipe floor with everyone that crosses their path domestic and europe, total havoc.

Posession - check.
Creativity and link-up play - check.
Fear factor - check.

But we all know that fucktarde would somehow screw up yet another season of a total shitshow of football.

So much versatility to play against anyone or any kind of formation.

Neymar and messi injured:

Vidal de jong arthur
Griez
Dembele suarez

Dembele and neymar injured:
Rakitic de jong arthur
Messi griez
Suarez

Griez and suarez injured:
Vidal busi de jong
Dembele messi neymar

Suarez and dembele injured:

Arthur busi de jong
Messi griez neymar

You got the point.
Thats some fifa gaming line up, and somehow im not that excited for next season, but this players alone should play some extraordinary football, regardless of fuckterde.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Sure but Liverpool has a manager under which no name players play like world class ones while we have a manager under which star/world class players often play like no name ones. Klopp vs. Valverde difference is what it costed Barca the CL.

It was predictable before the tie. Even the 3-0 at home it was something like 12-15 shots or something like that, with Liverpool having a lot of chances and also dominating possession. That Salah chance was a monumental one. He had another good one. Milner had 2 very good ones, Mane had a very good one as well.

The 3-0 victory was basically our star players having some brilliant executions (Suarez and Messi especially), while Liverpool pretty much controlled the game but couldn't take their chances.

In the return leg Liverpool had 13-8 shots. So basically, in terms of chances created, it was 28 - 20 for Liverpool overall, almost 50% more chances created for them, considering neither team took wild shots from 30m or so, so basically vast majority of shots were taken from within standard shooting range or in the box even.

They've outplayed us more clearly than the 4-3 aggregate suggested. It doesn't matter if we have better players if they are better coached and tactically superior to us. Their lesser hard working players outperformed our higher paid stars. The tie was won by Klopp's highly energetic and speedy football with intense pressing. He missed his best attackers in the return leg and it didn't even matter, because Klopp has a system that is not as reliant on superstars. They create chances based on what they do in training session and the playing style they adopt weekly. We create our chances through Messi and not much else.
 
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defyqa

New member
I miss the times when we had a system. Even lesser players like U-U-Uleger were good enough to win the CL. Lucho destroyed that with pass-to-MSN, Valverde even more.
 

Sorin

Well-known member
Good video with a bad ending. Just chucking in la masia players on the pitch in meaningless, dead rubber games doesn't mean you actually promoted them. Those players learned diddly squat under him. Seriously, not even Alena, who is officially a first team player since december, doesn't feel like he progressed significantly along the way.

There's absolutely no silver lining with this guy. Everything he did, with the ample participation of the board, has stunted our progress. He is a failure in every way possible.
 
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soul24rage

Senior Member
Good video with a bad ending. Just chucking in la masia players on the pitch in meaningless, dead rubber games doesn't mean you actually promoted them. Those players learned diddly squat under him. Seriously, not even Alena, who is officially a first team player since december, doesn't feel like progressed significantly along the way.

I see what you did there :valverde2:

I agree with you said and especially with Alena. I think he'll play in some cup games or dead rubber games and I bet he'll be the same player that he is today.

With some players staying that should have been sold imo, there's no room for Alena and I think it would be best if he went on a loan this season.
 

FC B

Senior Member
It was predictable before the tie. Even the 3-0 at home it was something like 12-15 shots or something like that, with Liverpool having a lot of chances and also dominating possession. That Salah chance was a monumental one. He had another good one. Milner had 2 very good ones, Mane had a very good one as well.

The 3-0 victory was basically our star players having some brilliant executions (Suarez and Messi especially), while Liverpool pretty much controlled the game but couldn't take their chances.

In the return leg Liverpool had 13-8 shots. So basically, in terms of chances created, it was 28 - 20 for Liverpool overall, almost 50% more chances created for them, considering neither team took wild shots from 30m or so, so basically vast majority of shots were taken from within standard shooting range or in the box even.

They've outplayed us more clearly than the 4-3 aggregate suggested. It doesn't matter if we have better players if they are better coached and tactically superior to us. Their lesser hard working players outperformed our higher paid stars. The tie was won by Klopp's highly energetic and speedy football with intense pressing. He missed his best attackers in the return leg and it didn't even matter, because Klopp has a system that is not as reliant on superstars. They create chances based on what they do in training session and the playing style they adopt weekly. We create our chances through Messi and not much else.

Couldn't agree more.

But still why a supposedly professional board like Barca's won't see the obvious that almost any rational fan can easily spot and understand?
Surely, the core players are at fault too for backing up a coach like this but those imbecile fucks from the board are payed only to listen to Messi & co's preferences when it comes to coaches?

I though keeping Messi's friend Pinto as a reserve GK was as amateurish as it can get in a professional top club but this is way more serious and with much worse consequences for the club and for the fans.
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Shitverde has not developed ONE player, not even one. In fact many have regressed.

He is basically the Spanish Sam Allardyce of LA liga and he's still here!
 

Marshall D Teach

Well-known member
Imagine if Valverde were our coach in 2008 instead of Pep. Dude would probably have benched Xavi, Iniesta and Messi for Deco and Ronaldinho.
 
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