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Euro 2016
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Has nothing to do with glory hunting.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
With Two Euros and One WC in the last four attempts?
Pablo Escobar
New member
After the WC 2014 the clock has been reset to old Spain.
Fuck it. We blew 2-0 lead while Chezhs had 0 shots of target.
also, fuck Torcida and Hajduk Split hope they find sudden deth when I meet one of them cunts ob the street. They ruined the match by causing riots and throwing flares. Cowards. If I do meet one of them these days Im gonna slap them around.
also, fuck Torcida and Hajduk Split hope they find sudden deth when I meet one of them cunts ob the street. They ruined the match by causing riots and throwing flares. Cowards. If I do meet one of them these days Im gonna slap them around.
Exactly. French police are idiots. First watched while English (they hate them) fought Russians, and all the while not doing their jobs.
What the hell is Croatian FA supposed to do. Hire people to search people for French incompetent fools on French stadiums?
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Maybe root out the corrupt criminals in control of it? Or well, that's the Croatian authorities' job.
By most accounts it seems like that's a huge problem and a part of this mess. [MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION] said something similar too.
Deco 20
Scandinavian 101
What I'm saying is that we should've done better in the final third, because the game was ours for the taking
barcafan161
Active member
Just one problem after another with the crowd issues. Why is security so poor?
Kerrybai
New member
Security is awful. They do a very small body search (pat down) and off you go. The security at Euro 2012 was tighter.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
Croatia's "hidden" prime minister has been sacked 2 days ago due to a corruption. (A guy who was not an actual prime minister, but he is a true leader of a country and he was controlling the actual prime minister, who was just his toy. Don't even try to ask for an explanation, it is insane, corrupted and broken on 1000s of levels).
Croatia has some international legal problems with Hungary and international arbitral courts are trying to solve the case now, while a wife of our leader (hidden prime minister) worked more or less for Hungarians (got paid, corrupted) and then our prime minister more or less tried to lose that lawsuit (Croatia as a country will lose money, him as a single person will earn tons of money)
And that is already a 2nd case of a prime minister getting sacked or going to jail in the last few years, lol.
90% of politicians of two biggest political parties are insanely corrupted, and they are surrounded with their people.
So, the the truth or justice is irrelevant in Croatia.
What matters is only to surround yourself with people from your party and somehow to control the country.
In that sense, Mamic from Dinamo has 100s of criminal connections with politicians who are also criminals and corrupted, level 20 000.
Then, Mamic is doing what he wants with club football and NT football, and part of fans (even though they are idiots and too extreme) decided to make problems.
To some extent, like 1%, I can understand these hooligans, because our whole country is corrupted and basically there is 0% chance to do anything against politicians or any major criminal in our country, since they are all connected and they cover one for another.
So, this was the only chance for these hooligans to fight against coruptcy in Croatia.
But now, 95% of normal people are pissed off and basically on Facebook and Twitter, normal fans are now asking for names of those hooligans, and regular people almost want to kill those hooligans...
(We have now Facebook pages: give us the names of these hooligans, let's break their bones and let's go to their houses, lol.
And you can actually see the names of hooligans from yesterday, where they live, their pictures.
And people will surely come to their homes and create some new problems)
So, basically:
1. politicians and businessmen (Mamic) are corrupted
2. then a bunch of fans/idiots lose nerves and create these problems with swastika and problems from yesterday, in order to fight against politicians and coruptcy
3. and then, regular people will virtually kill those hooligans and regular people will get into troubles
= so, a never-ending cycle, caused by corrupted politicians, more or less
Again, these hooligans are right to some small extent, like 1%, since they can't do anything against coruptcy in Croatia.
But imo, this is an example what happens when your top people (politicians, leaders, businessmen, justice) are corrupted.
If they are corrupted and they aren't controlling things well, then everything among regular people goes to hell.
People start to fight for justice in wrong ways (hooligans), then other regular people are seeking their justice against those hooligans and they will get themselves into troubles and it never ends.
About why Croatian jury or Croatian FA didn't fight with hooligans?
Well, Croatia again doesn't even have a government from 2 days ago.
So, we don't have a government, a country is in huge debts (we could suffer Greece's faith in the future), nobody knows when we will have new elections, who will be our new government, will new guys be as equally as dumb as all other governments in the last 20 years etc?
So, government=non existent, and corrupted
Courts=connected with corrupted and sacked government, and corrupted also
Police=connected with politicians, with sacked government, and corrupted also
Mamic=connected for some reason with politicians and all governments, with courts, with police, with everyone
A normal citizen=you have to listen to corrupted politicians, corrupted courts, police and everything, lol
I don't want to defend these hooligans, but if this happened in Sweden, then these hooligans would have been 100% idiots.
Here in Croatia, they are still idiots (like 90-99%), but to some small percentage, you could understand those hooligans and their revolt, because our country and politicians are so fucked up, in debts and insanely corrupted.
Those hooligans more or less tried to fight against a corrupted Croatian political/court system, since you can't find any justice in Croatia.
I really don't want to defend these hooligans, because I am so pissed off at them, and I would also break their legs and arms now because they are ruining our NT team, and Euros for other supporters from other countries.
But this is what happens among people when a hole country is fucked up and corrupted on all highest political positions/courts/police/media.
On social media yesterday and this morning, 95% of people are against hooligans, while 5% of people (usually hard core football fans, fans of Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split) are pleased with what happened and they are saying: burn them all, we won't stop, Croatian FA and Mamic need to go down, this is a war and it will be even worse.
Some of my friends from my city are posting Facebook updates today hailing these hooligans (and these friends have wives, daughters, normal nice jobs, and are generally good guys, lol) and trying to defend their actions with things which I explained above like: there is no justice in Croatia, you can't do anything, you can't fight a system in Croatia, everything is fucked up and corrupted.
So, to some extent, people don't want to live in a system where everything is wrong is corrupted.
So, again, it is an extremely tough, strange and a confusing situation.
These hooligans need to go to jail, but on the other hand, when will anyone do something about Mamic? = no one can do anything, ever, it seems.
Also, what can be done about corrupted justice and politicians= nothing, again.
Sorry for a long post.
But too many things are wrong on so many levels in Croatia, and then normal people, and normal supporters (and you, supporters from other countries) are suffering.
We can send hooligans in jail, but it won't solve the root of these problems which caused these hooligans to do this.
And eventually, they will surely repeat similar things over and over.
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kadeng
Member
Croatia's "hidden" prime minister has been sacked 2 days ago due to a corruption. (A guy who was not an actual prime minister, but he is a true leader of a country and he was controlling the actual prime minister, who was just his toy. Don't even try to ask for an explanation, it is insane, corrupted and broken on 1000s of levels).
Croatia has some international legal problems with Hungary and international arbitral courts are trying to solve the case now, while a wife of our leader (hidden prime minister) worked more or less for Hungarians (got paid, corrupted) and then our prime minister more or less tried to lose that lawsuit (Croatia as a country will lose money, him as a single person will earn tons of money)
And that is already a 2nd case of a prime minister getting sacked or going to jail in the last few years, lol.
90% of politicians of two biggest political parties are insanely corrupted, and they are surrounded with their people.
So, the the truth or justice is irrelevant in Croatia.
What matters is only to surround yourself with people from your party and somehow to control the country.
In that sense, Mamic from Dinamo has 100s of criminal connections with politicians who are also criminals and corrupted, level 20 000.
Then, Mamic is doing what he wants with club football and NT football, and part of fans (even though they are idiots and too extreme) decided to make problems.
To some extent, like 1%, I can understand these hooligans, because our whole country is corrupted and basically there is 0% chance to do anything against politicians or any major criminal in our country, since they are all connected and they cover one for another.
So, this was the only chance for these hooligans to fight against coruptcy in Croatia.
But now, 95% of normal people are pissed off and basically on Facebook and Twitter, normal fans are now asking for names of those hooligans, and regular people almost want to kill those hooligans...
(We have now Facebook pages: give us the names of these hooligans, let's break their bones and let's go to their houses, lol.
And you can actually see the names of hooligans from yesterday, where they live, their pictures.
And people will surely come to their homes and create some new problems)
So, basically:
1. politicians and businessmen (Mamic) are corrupted
2. then a bunch of fans/idiots lose nerves and create these problems with swastika and problems from yesterday, in order to fight against politicians and coruptcy
3. and then, regular people will virtually kill those hooligans and regular people will get into troubles
= so, a never-ending cycle, caused by corrupted politicians, more or less
Again, these hooligans are right to some small extent, like 1%, since they can't do anything against coruptcy in Croatia.
But imo, this is an example what happens when your top people (politicians, leaders, businessmen, justice) are corrupted.
If they are corrupted and they aren't controlling things well, then everything among regular people goes to hell.
People start to fight for justice in wrong ways (hooligans), then other regular people are seeking their justice against those hooligans and they will get themselves into troubles and it never ends.
About why Croatian jury or Croatian FA didn't fight with hooligans?
Well, Croatia again doesn't even have a government from 2 days ago.
So, we don't have a government, a country is in huge debts (we could suffer Greece's faith in the future), nobody knows when we will have new elections, who will be our new government, will new guys be as equally as dumb as all other governments in the last 20 years etc?
So, government=non existent, and corrupted
Courts=connected with corrupted and sacked government, and corrupted also
Police=connected with politicians, with sacked government, and corrupted also
Mamic=connected for some reason with politicians and all governments, with courts, with police, with everyone
A normal citizen=you have to listen to corrupted politicians, corrupted courts, police and everything, lol
I don't want to defend these hooligans, but if this happened in Sweden, then these hooligans would have been 100% idiots.
Here in Croatia, they are still idiots (like 90-99%), but to some small percentage, you could understand those hooligans and their revolt, because our country and politicians are so fucked up, in debts and insanely corrupted.
Those hooligans more or less tried to fight against a corrupted Croatian political/court system, since you can't find any justice in Croatia.
I really don't want to defend these hooligans, because I am so pissed off at them, and I would also break their legs and arms now because they are ruining our NT team, and Euros for other supporters from other countries.
But this is what happens among people when a hole country is fucked up and corrupted on all highest political positions/courts/police/media.
On social media yesterday and this morning, 95% of people are against hooligans, while 5% of people (usually hard core football fans, fans of Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split) are pleased with what happened and they are saying: burn them all, we won't stop, Croatian FA and Mamic need to go down, this is a war and it will be even worse.
Some of my friends from my city are posting Facebook updates today hailing these hooligans (and these friends have wives, daughters, normal nice jobs, and are generally good guys, lol) and trying to defend their actions with things which I explained above like: there is no justice in Croatia, you can't do anything, you can't fight a system in Croatia, everything is fucked up and corrupted.
So, to some extent, people don't want to live in a system where everything is wrong is corrupted.
So, again, it is an extremely tough, strange and a confusing situation.
These hooligans need to go to jail, but on the other hand, when will anyone do something about Mamic? = no one can do anything, ever, it seems.
Also, what can be done about corrupted justice and politicians= nothing, again.
Sorry for a long post.
But too many things are wrong on so many levels in Croatia, and then normal people, and normal supporters (and you, supporters from other countries) are suffering.
We can send hooligans in jail, but it won't solve the root of these problems which caused these hooligans to do this.
And eventually, they will surely repeat similar things over and over.
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