FC Barcelona Finances

[JamDav1982]

Ex vice-president Mestre talking about board members acting like sporting directors and coaches without expert knowledge. More or less playing real live football manager. Who would have thought it?

Also mentioning that the financial situation was and still is tense. That's why they only loaned players like Murillo or Boateng.

Full interview: https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futb...ten-entrenadores-y-directores-deportivos.html

He is more or less saying some doubted Segura which he didnt agree with and backed him all the way.

 

[El Gato]

Different argument but folk freaking out about how these transfers are paid for dont seem to understand how these deals are structured.

Evidence of how they're structured?

 

[JamDav1982]

Evidence of how they're structured?

What would you accept as evidence?

 

[El Gato]

What would you accept as evidence?

Anything that proves the point without resorting to a generalisation and saying 'that's that'? Documentation? Some form of interview information from club's officials? Who's to say which deal is based mostly on installments, how these installments are laid out (amount scaling down or up each anniversary), which installment are you on time with paying and which, if any, is delayed, which transfer you've paid little money upfront and what kind of incentives there are on deals that haven't been made public knowledge.

 

[JamDav1982]

Anything that proves the point without resorting to a generalisation and saying 'that's that'? Documentation? Some form of interview information from club's officials? Who's to say which deal is based mostly on installments, how these installments are laid out (amount scaling down or up each anniversary), which installment are you on time with paying and which, if any, is delayed, which transfer you've paid little money upfront and what kind of incentives there are on deals that haven't been made public knowledge.

No idea what any of that is asking for but big deals like Ronaldo, Bale, Coutinho etc are most often paid in installments.

 

[El Gato]

No idea what any of that is asking for but big deals like Ronaldo, Bale, Coutinho etc are most often paid in installments.

Clearly. In other words you have no idea how they're paid and how Barcelona's deals were paid. Merely placing some hopes in the debt payoff plan.

 

[JamDav1982]

Clearly. In other words you have no idea how they're paid and how Barcelona's deals were paid. Merely placing some hopes in the debt payoff plan.

No you have no idea and are asking questions that dont make sense.

We know Suarez, Coutinho, Bale, Ronaldo etc all paid by installments.

 

[El Gato]

We know Suarez, Coutinho, Bale, Ronaldo all paid by installments.

Sure. Proof?

 

[FC433]

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clubs rarely pay upfront. There are a lot of addons and ifs in players' contract; that is why payments usually are made in instalments:
[tw]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">However, what has become increasingly familiar to supporters this summer is the use of stage payments instead of paying the whole transfer fee upfront. Based on media reports and a few assumptions, we can estimate that <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AFC?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AFC</a> cash outlay this summer was only £46m. <a href="https://t.co/oZAtumwcD8">pic.twitter.com/oZAtumwcD8</a></p>— Swiss Ramble (@SwissRamble) <a href="https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1161168708619948032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/tw]

 

[JamDav1982]

Sure. Proof?

Go look for it. Couldnt care less if you agree or not.

 

[FC433]

Important to note that we are discussing $$$$$ transfers not the cheap ones.

 

[El Gato]

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clubs rarely pay upfront. There are a lot of addons and ifs in players' contract; that is why payments usually are made in instalments:

Didn't say they aren't. But many aren't. Several news outlets report Coutinho fees in installments, others report Barcelona paid 106 upfront. All I'm asking for is tangible proof that Mr 'usually it happens this way' doesn't have.

 

[JamDav1982]

Didn't say they aren't. But many aren't. Several news outlets report Coutinho fees in installments, others report Barcelona paid 106 upfront. All I'm asking for is tangible proof that Mr 'usually it happens this way' doesn't have.

Mr ignorant.

 

[FC433]

Contracts are confidential; you are being unreasonable here. Now, to put you into perspective, can you prove that the payment occurred upfront?

 

[El Gato]

Mr ignorant.

We know Suarez, Coutinho, Bale, Ronaldo etc all paid by installments.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jul/01/cristiano-ronaldo-one-off-payment-real

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