FC Barcelona Finances

[serghei]

If the inquest finds that they were illegally contracted players and we played them knowing that then presumably significant sanctions will be applied on us too.

Doubt it. Probably on the previous board which is what we want.

They were already under contract, the extension would be voided probably. And some fines will be given, and Barcelona will probably bring down the previous board.

At this point, we need to go after those crooks. Make it a lesson you can't just do what you want as a Barca President. Ruin them. Isn't Bartomeu rich or something?

Not so sure we have a case, as law is tricky in these economical matters, but if we do, go ahead full on.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Doubt it. Probably on the previous board which is what we want.They were already under contract, the extension would be voided probably. And some fines will be given, and Barcelona will probably bring down the previous board.

At this point, we need to go after those crooks. Make it a lesson you can't just do what you want as a Barca President. Ruin them. Isn't Bartomeu rich or something?

Not so sure we have a case, as law is tricky in these economical matters, but if we do, go ahead full on.

If a club breaks FFP and receives an FFP fine the fine isn't invoiced to the president. It is paid off by the club as an entity.

The same applies here. Even though it is all Barto's fault that's not how legal proceedings work, FC Barcelona is who contracted those players and as such FC Barcelona would face any potential punishment.

If these allegations are true, it can be said we gained a competitive advantage through criminality and theoretically fielded ineligible players. So any legal action might not be worth it.

 

[Gari]

Laporta said a smart thing about the Super League last year: the officials decided that football is them, not the teams. LaLiga wants to allow everything, but does not want to be held responsible. There will be a big wave here.

 

[khaled_a_d]

If the inquest finds that they were illegally contracted players and we played them knowing that then presumably significant sanctions will be applied on us too.

The wrongdoing here in the eyes of the authorities, the other teams in the league and in football is down to FC Barcelona. It's not FC Bartomeu or FC Laporta, there is collective responsibility for the actions taken by the previous board also and considering this any legal action would likely leave us worse off due to punishments/penalties.

Barcelona is a member owned club, not a private business.
If employees collaborated together for their benefit on the expense of the club then it isn't FC Barcelona to blame.
The case here seems like that, previous board (an employer of the club) offered insane money for 4 players (also hired by the club) in order to get out of legal trouble of encountered losses while costing the club over 200M of future loses.
Now, I don't know if this is true or not and whether we can go to court and win but I think when they say criminal act, this is what it means.

 

[serghei]

If a club breaks FFP and receives an FFP fine the fine isn't invoiced to the president. It is paid off by the club as an entity.

The same applies here. Even though it is all Barto's fault that's not how legal proceedings work, FC Barcelona is who contracted those players and as such FC Barcelona would face any potential punishment.

If these allegations are true, it can be said we gained a competitive advantage through criminality and theoretically fielded ineligible players. So any legal action might not be worth it.

Ineligible players how? They had a legal contract already in place.

True, we would be fined probably, and we'll go after the previous board on our own.

 

[serghei]

This changes the conversation, because it was my belief that the payments were just delayed. Now it seems that the players accepted some delays in payments for much fatter paydays which are approaching fast probably.

So, it's not a case of paying what is owed from back, but overpaying by a lot because these players accepted some delays due to covid. Shitty move by the players too in this case. It's like making bussiness on the back of covid and Barto.

I thought them accepting those delays were a gesture of good will. Heck, Madrid played even had cuts according to reports, not delays, but actually waived percentages away from their salary for good.

 

[serghei]

So, are we paying these players inflated salaries BECAUSE they accepted delays during the pandemic? Because that's fucked up if you ask me.

 

[Gari]

Piqu? realized that hell could begin for the players. This story could end badly for many.

 

[M3ls]

https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/mama4h/3067104.html

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[jamrock]

It will be very difficult in court to separate the club "FC Barcelona" from Bartomeu.

We should sue bartomeu for at least 200m.

 

[Givenchy]

This is a can of worms that should not be opened.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Ineligible players how? They had a legal contract already in place.

True, we would be fined probably, and we'll go after the previous board on our own.

It wouldn't just be a punishment as the sole issue, though a major one as we are already financially struggling. But a legal process likely means a ton of information about the club's working practises, past and present, will be disclosed, and that will probably include a number of scandals which would damage our image.

It's just not worth it and also not a good look to say we have signed players onto illegal contracts recently. We suffered enough damage to our reputation because of Barto and there's no need to open those wounds again.

 

[serghei]

It wouldn't just be a punishment as the sole issue, though a major one as we are already financially struggling. But a legal process likely means a ton of information about the club's working practises, past and present, will be disclosed, and that will probably include a number of scandals which would damage our image.

It's just not worth it and also not a good look to say we have signed players onto illegal contracts recently. We suffered enough damage to our reputation because of Barto and there's no need to open those wounds again.

I disagree. The club should go hard on Bartomeu and his clan, and paint the club as basically exploited by a criminal. If they can do it. It paints a picture of the club trying to fix what went wrong in the last years, and sort the shit out.

If we have to wash our laundry in the open, so be it.

Besides, mostly butthurt EPL fans and their delusional pundits are moaning about it.

 

[serghei]

It will be very difficult in court to separate the club "FC Barcelona" from Bartomeu.

We should sue bartomeu for at least 200m.

Well, it's possible that Bartomeu didn't act in the interests of the club, but for his own personal gain. If you can prove that, this is like an employee stealing from the firm that hired him. How can the firm be guilty in this case?

It depends on what you can prove really. You also have to prove malicious intent, and not incompetence. This would be the trickiest part.

 

[Porque]

The contracts are not illegal in the sense of law. What the current board are saying that it is an abuse of the circumstances of the time, which may be able to challenge because a) they come into existence because of Covid and b) the timing of them being signed was directly before Bartomeu left leaving open the arguement for him intentially causing corporate sabotaging the club.

The circumstance of the players through their agents is that they are merely complicit. And Pique has been the smartest to realise this and thus the first to comply. Frenkie meanwhile still has the glitter of the golden anus in front of his eyes.

That Bartomeu come out and said that LaLiga agreed to this makes a mockery of their so called FFP system. You have salary cap shrinkage directly because of Covid, and yet they sign off and agree to a system where players are REWARDED with a pay INCREASE as a direct result of a pandemic which is giving the club (and the world) record losses. How can they too as an institution overlooking the ffp of the clubs agree to this method of financing, yet reject for example the wages that Alves earned.