jklz
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"That´s the proper stairway: barça , then a club in 1st division and finally barça 1st squad if he has quality. "
Why? How is loaning out a player the proper way? Before Deulofeu and Rafinha, loaning out a player never yielded success for us.
The high level didn't stop Pep from using young players. Pedro and Busquets became starters without being loaned to a first team, heck they both hadn't even played in the Segunda División. Thiago and Fontàs got their promotions after the 2010/2011 season and especially the former played a great deal of minutes in the season after. Tello and Cuenca both had quite a fair share of minutes in 2011/2012 and they both earned their promotions in that season. Montoya was used as an alternative for Alves at a young age (and started the Copa del Rey final even). Heck, Jonathan dos Santos played around 20 matches under Pep.
Deulofeu was awarded the prize for best player in the Segunda División last season, yet he basically never got called up. Rafinha played more in the first team under Pep than under Tito.
And like I said, even with 2 injuries (while already having trouble in the centre back department); they'd rather have Song or Adriano as back-up than someone from the B-team.
And in these last two seasons, we've hardly seen any Barça B players in the Copa del Rey (where we face teams that play well below Segunda División level). Pep pretty much played the entire B-team in the Champions League match against Bate Borisov and the kids demolished them 4-0. Of course, that match didn't matter; but it says something. In the first tie of the 2010 Supercopa against Sevilla he played the following line-up: Miño, Alves, Gómez (only 18 years old), Milito, Abidal, Romeu, Dos Santos, Keita, Bojan, Ibrahimovic, Maxwell and Thiago came on as a sub.
Maybe drawing comparisons with Guardiola isn't fair, but the differences are immense.
Why? How is loaning out a player the proper way? Before Deulofeu and Rafinha, loaning out a player never yielded success for us.
The high level didn't stop Pep from using young players. Pedro and Busquets became starters without being loaned to a first team, heck they both hadn't even played in the Segunda División. Thiago and Fontàs got their promotions after the 2010/2011 season and especially the former played a great deal of minutes in the season after. Tello and Cuenca both had quite a fair share of minutes in 2011/2012 and they both earned their promotions in that season. Montoya was used as an alternative for Alves at a young age (and started the Copa del Rey final even). Heck, Jonathan dos Santos played around 20 matches under Pep.
Deulofeu was awarded the prize for best player in the Segunda División last season, yet he basically never got called up. Rafinha played more in the first team under Pep than under Tito.
And like I said, even with 2 injuries (while already having trouble in the centre back department); they'd rather have Song or Adriano as back-up than someone from the B-team.
And in these last two seasons, we've hardly seen any Barça B players in the Copa del Rey (where we face teams that play well below Segunda División level). Pep pretty much played the entire B-team in the Champions League match against Bate Borisov and the kids demolished them 4-0. Of course, that match didn't matter; but it says something. In the first tie of the 2010 Supercopa against Sevilla he played the following line-up: Miño, Alves, Gómez (only 18 years old), Milito, Abidal, Romeu, Dos Santos, Keita, Bojan, Ibrahimovic, Maxwell and Thiago came on as a sub.
Maybe drawing comparisons with Guardiola isn't fair, but the differences are immense.
... I dont see why the coach shouldnt play a yth/B team player like Bagnack at CB if we are stuck instead of Adriano.
