BBZ8800
Senior Member
Remember that Samper was rated and overhyped here a few years ago higher than Alena and Puig together.
Denis was the new Iniesta, a new number 6.
Some usual suspects from this forum who love only Barca DNA players were writing songs about Denis in his first season here, while he was always the worst player in our rooster from the day 1 with irreparable flaws for a top level football. But he had some shiny moves and nice technique so a lot of people were fooled by 2-3 areas in which he was good at.
So, it is not as simple as you say.
My point is, people are making a logical reasoning mistake when they are questioning every single EV's decision due to Roma's and Liverpool's matches.
As in: he made horrible choices against Roma and Liverpool, so probably EVERY SINGLE DECISION which he made over 2 years here is probably=wrong.
And people are wrong there.
EV made bad choices in away matches against Liverpool and Roma.
That still doesn't have anything to do with Malcom who is an average player regardless of what EV did in a match against Liverpool.
Malcom is equally good or bad, regardless if we won 4:0 or lost 0:4 to Liverpool, if you get my point?
In that sense, I am saying that Arthur has dropped a lot in a pecking order of EV and his coaching staff once when coaches were more familiar with his abilities and flaws.
Imo, there is a very high chance that people will find out over time (the same as with Malcom, for example): why has Arthur lost a place in EV's pecking order.
There is, though, a chance that EV was horribly wrong about everything...
But how things stand in this moment, to save you guys from frustrations, I have offered you the most predictable lineup in the next season:
1. if EV and Rakitic will stay:
Busi, Raki - Vidal (or Frenkie)
2. if EV stays and Raki will be sold:
Busi - xx -xx (two spots between Vidal, Frenkie, Arthur and Alena, with Vidal and Frenkie probably occupying spots no2 and no3 in EV's pecking order)
3. if EV will be gone:
= everything is possible and we need to see a pecking order of a new coach
If you guys won't accept this, I can already see first matches in August with Busi-Raki-Vidal/Frenkie, and 100s of posts: why, why, why Arthur is not playing?
I mean, if you open your eyes, check EV's pecking order (and check stats where Arthur is the weakest link in every possible statistical area, except in a mighty: press resistance area), you will lose less nerves in repeating the same question for the next 12 Months.
In this moment, EV doesn't rate Arthur.
Whether he is wrong or not, we will see over time.
But again, majority of posters are talking about Busi-Frenkie-Arthur lineup.
Lol, it is extremely unlikely that it will happen as long as EV is alive and Raki and Vidal are here since they will be higher in a pecking order than Arthur.
1. players can't improve if they are old, tired, physically and mentally drained, without motivation due to winning everything in their careers (Messi, Suarez, Busi, Raki, Pique)
2. players can't improve if they are meh and overrated (Dembele, Malcom, Semedo, Arthur)
Who has improved under EV?
Lenglet, Mats, Alba. Even Dembele was better in this season.
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Alba was a well established player before Valverde. Dembele is still playing bellow required level and he is nowhere near his potential. Oh and yes Arthur is overrated only according to you. Give Dembouz to Klopp and you will see what happens. I can't wait for you to write that De Jong is overrated because he for sure won't play great under Valverde. We might as well get Mbappe he would end up being described overrated by many in this forum as long as we are managed by this clown.
