Gerard Deulofeu

[FCBarca]

Do you want us too keep him? He would hardly play.

I think Pedro should be sold and as such a rotating wide player would be needed since there is presently no attacking depth.

 

[Butaan4barca]

pedro is a massive player, he would walk into starting 11, in 99% of the top teams.

 

[Jenks]

A 'premface' will often repeat stereotypes such as "Every game in EPL is hard unlike other leagues", [...]

To be fair this is something that primarily comes from managers that move to England from Spain, Italy etc.

 

[Jombi]

To be fair this is something that primarily comes from managers that move to England from Spain, Italy etc.

Have to suck up to the fans of course.

 

[frog-fcb]

Cmon now even bojan was managing to do ok in england up to he got injured in the english league its so simple to find space. Look at the cl game with barca and city even mascherano was making runs up the pitch he had that much room and he normally has a nose bleed if he comes near the halfway line. As for the europa league id say why english teams dont prioritise it is most likely the extra prize money they get for finishing a few places higher in the league would outweigh any money from the europa league

 

[Adversus]

Cmon now even bojan was managing to do ok in england up to he got injured in the english league its so simple to find space. Look at the cl game with barca and city even mascherano was making runs up the pitch he had that much room and he normally has a nose bleed if he comes near the halfway line. As for the europa league id say why english teams dont prioritise it is most likely the extra prize money they get for finishing a few places higher in the league would outweigh any money from the europa league

And Angel DiMaria and Soldado have done fantastic haven't they?

There's players that succeed and fail when changing leagues. It proves nothing to highlight individual cases. What's hard is the fact that each game is competitive. Even the top team's have to bring their A game when playing against the minnows and as a result by the end of the season it takes a huge toil on both injuries and fatigue which also partly explains the UCL performances.

But this isn't the place.

Back to Deulofeu. Apparently Laporta isn't happy. I'm not surprised after reading his comments before the sale. He's playing dirty and it was one of the reasons I was desperate for the sale to go through as early as possible.

 

[FCBarca]

Back to Deulofeu. Apparently Laporta isn't happy. I'm not surprised after reading his comments before the sail. He's playing dirty and it was one of the reasons I was desperate for the sale to go through as early as possible.

You should be pointing out that Barto is playing dirty by conducting transfers during the election process when there shouldn't be any business done

 

[Adversus]

You should be pointing out that Barto is playing dirty by conducting transfers during the election process when there shouldn't be any business done

Well I don't know about the politics of it but the player wanted to leave and Barca didn't see a future for him in the 1st team squad so it made sense for all concerned in my opinion.

I don't see what Barto had to gain by selling him but I do see what the other guy has to gain by criticising it. I'm just glad we got the deal done before Deulofeu was used as a political football.

 

[FCBarca]

Well I don't know about the politics of it but the player wanted to leave and Barca didn't see a future for him in the 1st team squad so it made sense for all concerned in my opinion.

Politics absolutely involved, all candidates not named Bartomeu prize the cantera as it should...Your claims lack credibility when you assert 'Barca' did not see a future in the player when one non elected member pushed through deals during the election period when they are not supposed to occur

I don't see what Barto had to gain by selling him but I do see what the other guy has to gain by criticising it. I'm just glad we got the deal done before Deulofeu was used as a political football.

Bartomeu altered his administration's bottom line as occurred with the sale/loan of another cantera player in Montoya which also forces the next board to have to seek depth through acquisitions/transfers which is a hallmark of the disastrous board policies of Rosell & Bartomeu

 

[Adversus]

Politics absolutely involved, all candidates not named Bartomeu prize the cantera as it should...Your claims lack credibility when you assert 'Barca' did not see a future in the player when one non elected member pushed through deals during the election period when they are not supposed to occur



Bartomeu altered his administration's bottom line as occurred with the sale/loan of another cantera player in Montoya which also forces the next board to have to seek depth through acquisitions/transfers which is a hallmark of the disastrous board policies of Rosell & Bartomeu

But it was hardly one unelected member. You're speculating to prove a point. Enrique was also responsible for loaning him out and Emery didn't play him. Do you really think that's the history of a player ready for Barca's first team? What Barca did was let him leave and demand a small buy back which was a perfectly sensible approach. Maybe not one you agree with or even Laporta but perfectly understandable. There's no evidence politics played a part.

Basically what you're saying is that Baromeu was operating a scorched earth policy and he achieved this by selling Montoya and Deulofeu? Do you realize how absurd this sounds. More like a camp fire than scorched earth.

And for you to even be right it must mean he thinks it's impossible for him to win because otherwise he would be making his own job harder.

 

[EdmondDantes]

pedro is a massive player, he would walk into starting 11, in 99% of the top teams.

No question about it. I have no doubt Pedro would make a similar impact as Sanchez in the Premier League.

Alexis is stronger but Pedro has a better first touch and close control.

As for Deulofeu, I hope Martinez plays him this time. He's better than anything he has at Everton if* Mirallas does go.

 

[FCBarca]

But it was hardly one unelected member. You're speculating to prove a point. Enrique was also responsible for loaning him out and Emery didn't play him. Do you really think that's the history of a player ready for Barca's first team? What Barca did was let him leave and demand a small buy back which was a perfectly sensible approach. Maybe not one you agree with or even Laporta but perfectly understandable. There's no evidence politics played a part.

Its not speculation, it's in the statutes of the club...The elections should've been held in May and the club cannot proceed with transfer business when there is an interim board in place during the process...Bartomeu has also violated the club statutes in other ways (in particular, access to member lists & penyas) but Deulofeu's departure was rightly singled out by Benedito & Laporta

Lucho loaning him out last summer was last summer, it does not preclude his inclusion this season and another club's coach handling of him is irrelevant

Deulofeu being ready or not is without question, he's further along than any other youth player before him apart from Messi and yet he never got the chance with the 1st team yet that even Jona Dos Santos (aka the social member) got...You just showed up here, you haven't a clue how player development works or has worked at this club

As for the buyback, this has never worked out for Barcelona and why the club has traditionally not used loans much less buybacks...More reason to be enraged by the actions of this board

Politics absolutely played into it but again, you just arrived and hard to imagine you could recognize that

Basically what you're saying is that Baromeu was operating a scorched earth policy and he achieved this by selling Montoya and Deulofeu? Do you realize how absurd this sounds. More like a camp fire than scorched earth.

For a corporate stooge like Bartomeu, the club is a cash cow and winning ensures continuity - considering how many deceitful & illegal things have been done during the tenure of this board then nothing can be ruled out...The club does not sell it's own cantera players like this, it is simply not part of the ethos of this club...When a player like Oleguer plays and plays regularly, then a talent like Deulofeu is kicked to the curb there is a major problem

And for you to even be right it must mean he thinks it's impossible for him to win because otherwise he would be making his own job harder.

The most successful President in the club's history with former club legends is running against Barto, he knows he will have to pull out every trick in the book to succeed - and he's already pulled several thus far...Welcome to the world of politics, this isn't a Pixar film

 

[Adversus]

No question about it. I have no doubt Pedro would make a similar impact as Sanchez in the Premier League.

Alexis is stronger but Pedro has a better first touch and close control.

As for Deulofeu, I hope Martinez plays him this time. He's better than anything he has at Everton is Mirallas does go.

There's rumors Mirallas is staying but it won't matter because the rumor is Deulofeu is going to be played in the hole as a No10 behind Lukaku. I hope the rumors are true because frankly Mirallas is a top class player and it's looking like it's unlikely we can get better and I've always thought playing in the center would bring the best out of Deulofeu plus allow Barkley to move back to his more natural No8 position.

His eye for a pass and spatial awareness is very good and with the ability to go both ways when dribbling and with having players on both sides to pass to it might prevent him from going down a blind alley. Deulofeu is more direct than greedy. If the assist is on he plays it. He just doesn't stop and play it back when nothing is on.

 

[Adversus]

Its not speculation, it's in the statutes of the club...The elections should've been held in May and the club cannot proceed with transfer business when there is an interim board in place during the process...Bartomeu has also violated the club statutes in other ways (in particular, access to member lists & penyas) but Deulofeu's departure was rightly singled out by Benedito & Laporta

Lucho loaning him out last summer was last summer, it does not preclude his inclusion this season and another club's coach handling of him is irrelevant

Deulofeu being ready or not is without question, he's further along than any other youth player before him apart from Messi and yet he never got the chance with the 1st team yet that even Jona Dos Santos (aka the social member) got...You just showed up here, you haven't a clue how player development works or has worked at this club

As for the buyback, this has never worked out for Barcelona and why the club has traditionally not used loans much less buybacks...More reason to be enraged by the actions of this board

Politics absolutely played into it but again, you just arrived and hard to imagine you could recognize that




For a corporate stooge like Bartomeu, the club is a cash cow and winning ensures continuity - considering how many deceitful & illegal things have been done during the tenure of this board then nothing can be ruled out...The club does not sell it's own cantera players like this, it is simply not part of the ethos of this club...When a player like Oleguer plays and plays regularly, then a talent like Deulofeu is kicked to the curb there is a major problem




The most successful President in the club's history with former club legends is running against Barto, he knows he will have to pull out every trick in the book to succeed - and he's already pulled several thus far...Welcome to the world of politics, this isn't a Pixar film

Ok fair enough. I'm still not sure I agree with you because I don't see the upside for Bartomeu because I don't buy your "scorched earth theory" but I'm certainly not naive enough to think that politics isn't a dirty game

 

[Barcadub]

Seen some highlights of him today of him in his pre season game.

Was selfish when he could have played Everton players in for goals on a few occasions