Alik
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Yeah the 77% possession was because Argentina decided to play like Barca and not because Iran had no interest in the ball.
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Flavia
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That's a myth. The 86 argentina nt was good, a solid team.
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Alik
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You can clearly see ball fly out of the way because of his touch.
He got the ball where?
http://gfycat.com/PiercingScratchyBobcat#
look here for a fluid image he didn't touch and even if he got the slightest of touches it's still a penalty considering the ball was still reachable...
look here for a fluid image he didn't touch and even if he got the slightest of touches it's still a penalty considering the ball was still reachable...
BerkeleyBernie
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C'mon.
Iran did an excellent job defending deep and frustrating Argentina today, and created a few good chances, but the quality isn't there yet throughout the lineup. Speaking as a neutral (who enjoys playing pickup soccer with Iranians), most of the team on the pitch today didn't have the technical quality to string passes together. Besides clearing the ball aimlessly, they constantly lost the ball moving out of their half with either misplaced passes or naive take-ons. Even with their deep defending, they gave away several free headers in the first half that could have put the game away. I don't fault Iran's approach at all, the coach had his tactics dead right. But they are going to need more players capable of playing in the top leagues before they really have an impact. Let's hope they come back stronger in 2018.One can't tell from one game, but their keeper impressed, and seems capable of playing at a top division club somewhere.
BarcaGirl
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Fun Fact: The only relevant loss Sabella had in 3 years was to Venezuela, away, and they parked the bus. 1-0.
+1 This is never a penalty. Queiroz can shut the fuck up.
+1 This is never a penalty. Queiroz can shut the fuck up.
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BerkeleyBernie
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They showed it in super slow-mo. If Zabaleta touched the ball, it was barely; the Iranian player kicked it and Zabaleta caught him. You can even see it in the gif, though difficult. Watch Zabaleta's kicking foot, and you will see the ball move a split second before he reaches it.
However, the ref has to be 100% sure, which is why he didn't give the penalty. Understandable, because the trajectory of the ball looks like a clearance, not a knock-on by the Iranian.
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beautifulgame
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Agree with what you say Zanela about the chances and having both Aguero and Higuain. For long my preference has been to drop one since but primarily cuz neither mark, with Messi not marking that make for 3 given not marking and 2 is doable but 3 is the like where a good team will punish 7, the rombos (pressure, cover, balance) will be incomplete for one of the four. The other reason is like you day want ball in similar places which isn't a problem itself however, as long as they rotate but we know sometimes they don't, esp Higuain who wants to play "classic 9" too long in same space.
As per the chances, Higuain that asshole, your boy I know, showed why he can be so frustrating cuz e is a lazy moody guy that wants to play sometimes and not others . If he was sharp then he would have finished or created a better chance from the couple he got in first half. Yes, tech clearer ones from the first half.
As per the width, sabella knows but will not commit another two in attack because like I said the front guys don't rotate and provide support behind the ball so when it is lost they are assed out and 2-4 dm and backs are left to defend with desperation. Which is a death sentence. This is a problem similar I recent barca who could not attack in same way because vulnerability by lacking collective responsibility of ball, rotation and marking.
There is also the point that Argentina don't NEED to win today but they NEEDED to not lose. Four points in first two would not be bad even though 6 is expected and desired.
Chainsaw
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Credits to Iran for showing an unexpected spirit to give Argentina trouble throughout the match. Honestly I didn't expect that and when you look at the quality of their squad this performance was quite impressing, considering their first match was worth horseshit.
Once again another poor performance by Argentina. And this one was even worse because of the quality of the opposition compare to Bosnia. Argentina should consider themselves lucky on many occasions. Fernandez should be dropped, he is the weakest link in defence. I dislike Demichelis but if I was Sabella I replace Fernandez with him for next match. Fernandez is just an average defender and he get caught on speed and even in the air several times. The man just cannot be trusted.
Higuain and Aguero were both terrible. Sabella had to sub 'em off earlier for one more midfielder or one of Palacio/Lavezzi but he took so long to realize they are not meant to do anything useful tonight. Thx to Messi brilliance for avoiding an embarrassment.
Once again another poor performance by Argentina. And this one was even worse because of the quality of the opposition compare to Bosnia. Argentina should consider themselves lucky on many occasions. Fernandez should be dropped, he is the weakest link in defence. I dislike Demichelis but if I was Sabella I replace Fernandez with him for next match. Fernandez is just an average defender and he get caught on speed and even in the air several times. The man just cannot be trusted.
Higuain and Aguero were both terrible. Sabella had to sub 'em off earlier for one more midfielder or one of Palacio/Lavezzi but he took so long to realize they are not meant to do anything useful tonight. Thx to Messi brilliance for avoiding an embarrassment.
Kerrybai
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The flight of the ball clearly changes. Zabaleta gets a very fine touch on it.
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beautifulgame
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Don't line why the hate on Iran. Played quite well till end when they stopped working
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