Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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fergus90

Senior Member
By the way, giving BOTH Bayern and RM the beatdown in a span of a few days is something you would only expect from Guardiola's Barca or 2015 MSN Barca - these sides had GOATs all over the field in multiple positions :lol:

With the squad we have right now, we know it's the manager doing the miracle work.

I simply cannot fathom this level of success AND style from this squad (no offense to them).

They need to do some dissertations on this guy's attacking system. Regardless of opposition, home or away, the team basically creates 20 chances per game as @fergus90 called it.
It’s incredible mate. Every game is a joy to watch. His teams are relentless. Long may it continue!
 

companyofcules

Well-known member
I read something interesting about his tactic today in the German Bayern forum. Why it worked for Bayern in their first season, was worse in the second and why it's working this good at Barca again.

Basic line is, he wants to force the opponent to play the long balls. Firstly, he baits them with the high defensive line to shoot the ball forward and get these easy behind runs like waving a piece of meat in front of a wolf. At the same time, he tries to close the space in front of the defense line, so they can't play these dangerous through balls from a short distance, which would be much more deadly.
The idea behind is, it's first of all more difficult to play an accurate long ball than a short one. Secondly it's easier for the defender to intercept a slower long ball that is longer in the air and gives the defender more time to react, thirdly you can play your offside trap of course.
But for this to work, you need tactical smart DMs with the right position play to close the gaps in front of the defense and bait your opponent for the long balls. In München, he had Thiago in his first 19/20 season, which worked perfectly well and then when he left for Liverpool, Flick didn't get a similiar successor and their defensive problems started.
Now at barca, he has again tactically trained players with Casado, Pedri, Frenkie who understand his idea. And the result was Bayern and Madrid were both baited into these long balls and offside traps.
Of course it's not a rock solid solution you can't overcome, as we've all seen the close offsides and 1vs1 against Pena yesterday. There is no perfect defense in the first place. You can get trashed with a high, low or medium defensive line.
But Flick likes this style of play, because the upside is it allows you to roll over your opponent having many players standing that high and playing fast.

It falls or stands more or less with smart DMs on how much they can bait and force the opponent into these long balls and backline too of course, because if just one player sleeps it's over like we've seen on Madrid's side where Mendy slept and Lewy was alone in front of Lunin. High risk, high reward
I think the defensive tactic is really based on other players and has a trigger. But I don't want to discuss our tactics.
I think they are right for the wrong reason, to a point, but that blocking of the center is done everywhere on the pitch because we run the extra mile.
 

companyofcules

Well-known member
Anyway, if he wins the treble with this team he is the goat, better than Cruyff or Pep.
For the moment he saved us from bankruptcy. The hype is back, the money will flow
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Lol I mean, I get it Lewa is not exactly a speed merchant, never has been, but bro that's crazy even for a hot take xD

You could safely say pretty much all the strikers right now in all of the football leagues including Mbappe Kane Salah would love to be 'weakest links' like Lewa, bagging 17 goals in 14 games
Seen nothing to convince me this ain't a purple patch just yet
You don't go from being washed to useful at 36
Just a matter of how long it lasts. Might be long enough to get Barca somewhere near a title but we will see
 

FC B

Senior Member
Started almost too well, nobody could've thought he'll beat both Bayern and Madrid with 8 goals scored and only one conceded.

It would be such a pitty if they won't win CL this season.
 

TemporaryFan

Active member
Seen nothing to convince me this ain't a purple patch just yet
You don't go from being washed to useful at 36
Just a matter of how long it lasts. Might be long enough to get Barca somewhere near a title but we will see
You'll see...
I see it now, already, without being a gifted visioneer.

Lewandowski is just himself, at long last, and Barcelona is a copy of 2019/20 Bayern, which for as long as it is, he'll remain top.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
You'll see...
I see it now, already, without being a gifted visioneer.

Lewandowski is just himself, at long last, and Barcelona is a copy of 2019/20 Bayern, which for as long as it is, he'll remain top.
Hate to break it to you but that was 4 years ago, he's 36, 37 by time of his +1 clause being triggered

Go easy
Nose is getting brown
 

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