Hans-Dieter Flick
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Messigician
Senior Member
Why would you say that lmfao
Total-Football
Senior Member
Teddy Atlas has a great podcast on boxing on YouTube. He coached a young mike tyson and other world champions. He said something once about how a coach should never overtrain the fighter and peak too many weeks before the fight. He said that if he sees his fighter in the best possible shape weeks before the fight he slows down. You want to be at the best shape physically and mentally at the time of the fight. Boxing and football are obviously different but some truth prolly still holds. Fans are worrying if flick is peaking physically and mentally too early, and if that would affect the sustainability until may. Time will tell I guess.
Was curious about "peaking too early" and if it's a thing. Wanted to check a few campagins back and how we did after 12 games like we played now.
This season
33p
11W-0L-1D +29 GD
Seasons we won the league
22/23
31p
10-1-1 +25
18/19
24p
7-3-2 +16
17/18
34p
11-1-0 +29
15/16
30p
10-0-2 +17
14/15
28p
9-1-2 +28
Seasons we didn't win league
23/24
27p
8-3-1 +12
21/22
17p
4-5-3 +17
20/21
20p
6-2-4 +13
19/20
23p
7-2-3 +15
16/17
26p
8-2-2 +19
The only 'anomaly' season was 18/19 when we started equal to a lot of seasons where we lost the league and then improved.
My basic conclusion is that there is no such thing as peaking too early, at least not in the league. Does anyone have a concrete example of a season where we peaked early and fizzled out and didn't have energy to go all the way? Perhaps this is more of a thing in CL knockouts.
This season
33p
11W-0L-1D +29 GD
Seasons we won the league
22/23
31p
10-1-1 +25
18/19
24p
7-3-2 +16
17/18
34p
11-1-0 +29
15/16
30p
10-0-2 +17
14/15
28p
9-1-2 +28
Seasons we didn't win league
23/24
27p
8-3-1 +12
21/22
17p
4-5-3 +17
20/21
20p
6-2-4 +13
19/20
23p
7-2-3 +15
16/17
26p
8-2-2 +19
The only 'anomaly' season was 18/19 when we started equal to a lot of seasons where we lost the league and then improved.
My basic conclusion is that there is no such thing as peaking too early, at least not in the league. Does anyone have a concrete example of a season where we peaked early and fizzled out and didn't have energy to go all the way? Perhaps this is more of a thing in CL knockouts.
The old adage is you don't get tired if you are winning.
Flick has said the team are still far from their peak.
Plus on the topic of mountains, Gavi, Fermin, Araujo, Frenkie, Christensen and Olmo are far from full fitness. That's 6 players who could easily be in the first 11. So if they go uninjured their peaks should be in the second half of the season.
In theory if guys like Pedri and Casado tire or dip, these guys can come in.
Only issue is the forwards where we should see if we can get someone in January. Maybe even Nico.
Flick has said the team are still far from their peak.
Plus on the topic of mountains, Gavi, Fermin, Araujo, Frenkie, Christensen and Olmo are far from full fitness. That's 6 players who could easily be in the first 11. So if they go uninjured their peaks should be in the second half of the season.
In theory if guys like Pedri and Casado tire or dip, these guys can come in.
Only issue is the forwards where we should see if we can get someone in January. Maybe even Nico.
Birdy
Senior Member
Yup!
Taking early lead and cementing it kills the moral of the competitor and secures the league eventually
It's the best strategy to win leagues
Temptation
Well-known member
Peaking early and running away with the league is the best thing to do. Hansi is unreal.
Alik
Moderator
Tata Martino season?
But yeah, "peaking at the right time" refers to Champions League knock-out stages.
jamrock
Senior Member
Yea no such thing as peaked early, once you get rolling, you tend to keep that momentum going.
Think about it, if flick didn't mess up against Osasuna, we would be what 9 points clear now?
That would pretty much be one hand on the league right now.
That's assuming you aren't competing against a pep coached team of course, who would go on some crazy 18 game win streak,
Think about it, if flick didn't mess up against Osasuna, we would be what 9 points clear now?
That would pretty much be one hand on the league right now.
That's assuming you aren't competing against a pep coached team of course, who would go on some crazy 18 game win streak,
Alik
Moderator
True
Rassvet
Well-known member
Liverpool 2019/20 was the greatest ever at that
Won like 76/78 points to start the season and had a City machine demoralized and giving up by November/December time
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