Hans-Dieter Flick

[Maradona37]

Bayern - Inter xG for whoever wants to know and is interested in a more data driven analysis. 2.65 vs 0.91.

You said that Bayern had lots of chances. Other than the glorious Kane one, it wouldn't be a surprise if that total is a lot of lesser chances adding up. Man United had the same thing gainst Forest. I am not fully sure on how xG is generated but it seems like it is a cumulative thing.

Plus, any metric can be flawed.

I didn't watch the game, just saying that xG isn't foolproof.

 

[serghei]

You said that Bayern had lots of chances. Other than the glorious Kane one, it wouldn't be a surprise if that total is a lot of lesser chances adding up. I am not fully sure on how xG is generated but it seems like it is a cumulative thing.

Plus, any metric can be flawed.

I didn't watch the game, just saying that xG isn't foolproof.

Well, Kane, and Muller chances were the biggest of the game. They should have scored at least 2 goals Bayern.

The big difference is Kane missed from a clearer position, and Lautaro scored with a great execution.

 

[Maradona37]

Well, Kane, and Muller chances were the biggest of the game. They should have scored at least 2 goals Bayern.

The big difference is Kane missed from a clearer position, and Lautaro scored with a great execution.

Fair enough.

Not saying you are wrong. I think jamrock makes a good point too though - there is something about teams with great defences (like Inter) where they don't concede even when a team has a really good chance against them. It could also be psychological, as maybe Kane and Muller feel under more pressure as they're aware Inter are a great defensive team so the pressure to score great chances (which are less frequent than against other teams) is immense.

 

[serghei]

Bayern had:

- good chance by Olise, shot wide just a bit
- good chance by Olise again
- huge chance by Kane
- good chance by Guereiro
- huge chance by Muller (goal)


Inter had:

- good chance by Lautaro (goal)
- good chance by Lautaro again
- big chance by Fratesi (goal)


So, Bayern had more chances, and also clearer. Inter did more with less, pure Italian efficiency. Now there's a question to be had if this is a quality of Inter, being very efficient and resilient. But if this Bayern missing some of their best players did dominate them and created more chances than Inter did, a fully fit Barca team could give Inter big problems.

 

[Maradona37]

Bayern had:

- good chance by Olise, shot wide just a bit
- good chance by Olise again
- huge chance by Kane
- good chance by Guereiro
- huge chance by Muller (goal)


Inter had:

- good chance by Lautaro (goal)
- good chance by Lautaro again
- big chance by Fratesi (goal)


So, Bayern had more chances, and clearer. Inter did more with less. Now there's a question to be had if this is a quality of Inter, being very efficient and resilient. But if this Bayern missing some of their best players did dominate them and created more chances than Inter did, a fully fit Barca team could give Inter big problems.

Fair post, cheers.

 

[M3ls]

I'll be satisfied with just winning La Liga and the Copa. I'm not sure we have the energy to win the Champions League. I think we will reach the final, but most likely we will lose against PSG, who can already distribute the load in a better way because they have no opposition in the League 1 and they have already won the league.

It's a monstrous calendar. Just monstrous.

 

[Barcaman]

I'll be satisfied with just winning La Liga and the Copa. I'm not sure we have the energy to win the Champions League. I think we will reach the final, but most likely we will lose against PSG, who can already distribute the load in a better way because they have no opposition in the League 1 and they have already won the league.

It's a monstrous calendar. Just monstrous.

For me, La Liga and Supercopa while playing this level of football with this thin squad, injury problems we had and many players over performing (thanx to Flick brilliance) would be a major feat.

Noone foresaw Lewa, Rapha or Inigo performing on this level. Kounde, Pedri playing best football of their careers.
Or Tek to come out of retirement to be our important player. Frankie, as well, is probably playing football of his career.

 

[malvolio]

On the other hand, this team hasn't faced many big challenges this season at European level. We played only two league winning teams in Young Boys & Red Star, and only one elite level team - Bayern.

On form shown and level of play, PSG - Barca should be the final. PSG has better credentials though, considering the opposition they faced in groups and KOs.

 

[jamrock]

Goes without saying we'll take the league, we have a 4 point advantage while sitting on the exact same points we had last season.

It's ours to lose.(We won't)

CL anything can happen.

 

[serghei]

On the other hand, this team hasn't faced many big challenges this season at European level. We played only two league winning teams in Young Boys & Red Star, and only one elite level team - Bayern.

On form shown and level of play, PSG - Barca should be the final. PSG has better credentials though, considering the opposition they faced in groups and KOs.

PSG lost vs AM, lost vs Arsenal, lost vs Bayern, lost vs Liverpool. Only won 1 game vs Liverpool away out of 5 vs top 3 teams in big leagues.

 

[Joan]

Anything is a bonus after Xavi told me to expect nothing.

Realistically, losing the league at this point would be a disaster. So the semis and the league are the objectives.

 

[Maradona37]

First in league, final of CDR, virtually in the semis of the CL. With 7/8 weeks left of the season.

With such a great position, you have to go for it on all three fronts. The treble is possible, though good points by M3ls, Barcaman and Malvolio too.

It's what? 13 games max? With one of those needing a catastrophe to stop progression (Dortmund away).

It has been a long, grueling season for them, but they're this close.

 

[malvolio]

PSG lost vs AM, lost vs Arsenal, lost vs Bayern, lost vs Liverpool. Only won 1 game vs Liverpool away out of 5 vs top 3 teams in big leagues.

For some reason I was under the impression they beat AM, fair enough.

That Liverpool double shouldn't have made it to pens, PSG was better in both games.

They also beat City.

 

[serghei]

Odds to win as it stands at the bookies are Barcelona, PSG, Arsenal, Inter, in this order. I'd see it like that also, but it's very close between the 4.

Arsenal and Inter are not nearly through yet though. They still have work to do.

 

[serghei]

For some reason I was under the impression they beat AM, fair enough.

That Liverpool double shouldn't have made it to pens, PSG was better in both games.

They also beat City.

City is not a top team this season. Madrid demolished them, and many others as well. Even United has a positive record vs City this season. When you get 4-0ed by Tottenham, you are not considered a top team that season.