How old are you?

How old are you?

  • below 20

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • 20-25

    Votes: 21 27.3%
  • 25-30

    Votes: 30 39.0%
  • 30-35

    Votes: 9 11.7%
  • 35-40

    Votes: 13 16.9%
  • 40 and above

    Votes: 3 3.9%

  • Total voters
    77
  • Poll closed .

BarcaOG

Banned
PhD in political philosophy?

phd candidate in political science specializing in political philosophy. 4th year. should finish in ~2 more years.


lol, that might sound fancy, but trust me it isnt. the academic job market is in the shitters and the prospects are not good. well, i am deep in it now so i might as well finish the degree...who knows after that
 

Birdy

Senior Member
phd candidate in political science specializing in political philosophy. 4th year. should finish in ~2 more years.


lol, that might sound fancy, but trust me it isnt. the academic job market is in the shitters and the prospects are not good. well, i am deep in it now so i might as well finish the degree...who knows after that

I know mate.
Same situation: 5th year in my PhD in Philosophy.
Academic job market awaits for me as well :lol:
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
There's a sizable proportion of doctorates (or to be doctorates) on Barcaforum it seems. Cruyff and Pep influence :mou:
 

Windhook

Well-known member
well, i am deep in it now so i might as well finish the degree...who knows after that

Just follow your heart. I had an offer 10 years ago from a professor to stay and make an academic career in Electrical engineering. Never had the passion for it, though, so I decided I'd feel more complete being part of the family agriculture business. Don't regret it, not one bit. I love being out there on the field, in nature. Business is good and I believe I made the right choice.
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
I know mate.
Same situation: 5th year in my PhD in Philosophy.
Academic job market awaits for me as well :lol:

phd candidate in political science specializing in political philosophy. 4th year. should finish in ~2 more years.


lol, that might sound fancy, but trust me it isnt. the academic job market is in the shitters and the prospects are not good. well, i am deep in it now so i might as well finish the degree...who knows after that

You two should also explore beyond the academic job markets. You can make a decent pitch for industry if you actually narrow down on your skillset and market that as opposed to the actual PhD you receive. IIRC Google's chief of decision/data sciences has a PhD in neuroscience/psychology (and not pure mathematics or statistics as one would expect).
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Lads, sod academia, honestly. If somebody told me after 4 years of the PhD I had to do some tenure position, post-doc or whatever else I'd sooner go and flip burgers for a living
 

BarcaOG

Banned
i mean, dont get me wrong: i love what i do and my chosen subject matter. id be very happy to continue down this path if it led to secure employment. chances are it wont, though.

in all likelihood i will end up going the route kingleo suggests, pitching my skillset in the corporate/civilian job market. even my friends/colleagues with multiple post-docs, published books and journal articles, stellar teaching records cant find secure employment so... the times are tough!
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
i mean, dont get me wrong: i love what i do and my chosen subject matter. id be very happy to continue down this path if it led to secure employment. chances are it wont, though.

in all likelihood i will end up going the route kingleo suggests, pitching my skillset in the corporate/civilian job market. even my friends/colleagues with multiple post-docs, published books and journal articles, stellar teaching records cant find secure employment so... the times are tough!

In the States at least, there is a high demand for individuals with the ability to analyze "real world evidence" (aka observational study data). AFAIK, that's a principle common to a lot of PhDs and whatever you haven't learned can be easily picked up on in a few months/on the job IMO (since the point of a PhD is to learn how to learn).
 

BarcaOG

Banned
In the States at least, there is a high demand for individuals with the ability to analyze "real world evidence" (aka observational study data). AFAIK, that's a principle common to a lot of PhDs and whatever you haven't learned can be easily picked up on in a few months/on the job IMO (since the point of a PhD is to learn how to learn).

yeah, that's true. unfortunately for me my work doesnt involve statistical analysis so i will probably need a bit of training in that once i graduate. but thats fine. if nothing else, the phd teaches you to learn efficiently...as you rightly point out
 

Richard.H

Senior Member
This is not a knack on any of you, but I never really understood the appeal of a PhD. I am an electrical engineer and I guess it's different for my field and maybe perhaps because I'm in the US. I realize academic prestige is important to some and there are some people who grow up in such households. Everyone I know that pursued a PhD in any engineering field was absolutely miserable. Also you are limiting your career to more academia-related work. Sure, you can work as an R&D engineer at Intel, AMD, Apple, etc. but you are in that position mainly because you are a PhD. Try applying to a low pressure entry engineer job or software engineering job, you'll have a difficult time getting hired because you'd be quite overqualified. It's weird, but anecdotally from everyone I know those who have bachelors or masters have easier time with jobs than those that get a PhD and want to try something outside of the realm of academia.
 

Home of Barca Fans

Top