Maradona37
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They were stupid to sack Nagelsmann anyway. He's already a great coach and very young. And now they have Kompany, who has so much to prove and many remain unconvinced by.
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Maradona37
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He has issues but he has enough talent as a coach, and tactical acumen, that you stand by him.
That was a bad loss yes, but other coaches have done just as badly. Tuchel lost the league for the first time in about 11 years. Bayern aren't scared to pull the trigger, they're a ruthless club. Maybe not as ruthless as Real Madrid, but they don't tolerate anything less than success in general.
serghei
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Naggelsmann is still learning and doing fine, but the big teams require things in the present. Having a top 3 team and getting shat on by 7th placed Spanish team is diabolically bad.
Bayern are ruthless. That is why they are a top 5 club historically most likely. If you want time you need to go to a lower level team. Like the teams in EPL. They hand out plenty of time and are ready to digest years of bad results before they sack you.
Bayern are ruthless. That is why they are a top 5 club historically most likely. If you want time you need to go to a lower level team. Like the teams in EPL. They hand out plenty of time and are ready to digest years of bad results before they sack you.
Maradona37
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It was a bad result but it happens. It's not a reason to think someone should definitely be sacked. These things happen in football, shocking results.
Nagelsmann is far from the finished article, but they've had guys like Kovac and Tuchel around his reign, and he's definitely better than them (Not really much of a fan of Tuchel, good coach, but not a big fan).
Nagelsmann is or will be a brilliant coach. It's not a Ten Hag at United scenario where they're clearly giving too much time to a dud. Anyone with a brain knows United won't win the PL or CL under Ten Hag. That's not the case with Nagelsmann at any club or national team.
Maradona37
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Yes true, but it has clearly backfired on them, because Tuchel failed and now they are stuck with Kompany after being rejected by plenty of people.
Sometimes it's not the right thing to do. The grass clearly isn't greener.
serghei
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They are in a worse moment now clearly. Their squad needs new, younger players, and those cost a fortune now.
Maradona37
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Exactly. Which would have made sticking with a young, promising coach even more imperative.
serghei
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Yes, now Naggelsmann is good for them. At the time though they were after short term success to get the most out of their aging squad.
Maradona37
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I suppose that's a good point. I still think they'd have been better off just keeping him in the first place.
I am not saying Nagelsmann is the messiah or anything - but I like him as a promising young coach and they probably should have stood by him given the lack of other great options. The coach market isn't great - a number of top clubs but a paucity of top coaches to go around. Hence we see the managerial merry go round.
serghei
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Big clubs don't do this, even if they sometimes should maybe. It's unnatural for them just like it is unnatural for Barcelona to accept Madrid dominating Europe. It's more a matter of pride. The truly big clubs have huge pride and ego. And they react aggressively if that is dented.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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16/17 Real played also nice football otherwise agree 💯
Maradona37
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Fair play.
Real obviously played quite good football - just think Bayern's teams were a level above in entertainment.
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