Ivan Fresneda
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How is Chygrynskyi playing?
ZenI
Professor Balthazar
3? I'll give you Kounde and Lewa, but Torres had fuck all to do with anything good.
jamrock
Senior Member
He meant raphinha,
ZenI
Professor Balthazar
Silly me, of course...
Clubs already distancing themselves from this move. Probably will be on his way to Madrid as I think he both prefers that move, and we have no financial capacity without exits to fund him this summer.
Makes you wonder why we didn't move for Hamari Traore give we need a new RB and have no salary cap for even a 10m transfer this summer.
Makes you wonder why we didn't move for Hamari Traore give we need a new RB and have no salary cap for even a 10m transfer this summer.
Messi983
Senior Member
Good from what I've seen, didn't have much work though as Spain dominated.
Yes.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Apparently on his way to Bournemouth.
Tbf, if data driven teams like Bournemouth or Brighton want you, then that is probably a good sign.
Reality here is we don't have 17m to buy Fresneda outright right now like these shitter Prem clubs do. Thanks Thebes and Nobita.
BUT, if we were 100% in for Fresneda (and with Xavi I don't know if that is the case because he will always opt for experience [Azpi ... Cancelo] over potential, unless it falls into his hands and is undeniable like Balde. But no way Xavi goes out and agrees to SIGN Balde over Marcos Alonso that Summer), then in theory it should have been an easy deal for us and Valla to iron-out.
Loan+Option to buy, or even agree for 2024 and have him loaned to Valladolid this season so that they can re-promote.
Only kink to that type of structure would be Madrid wanting him right now like what happened with Guler. But compared to fuckin' Bournemouth now or Barcelona next season, then should be an easy choice, all day, everyday.
Reality here is we don't have 17m to buy Fresneda outright right now like these shitter Prem clubs do. Thanks Thebes and Nobita.
BUT, if we were 100% in for Fresneda (and with Xavi I don't know if that is the case because he will always opt for experience [Azpi ... Cancelo] over potential, unless it falls into his hands and is undeniable like Balde. But no way Xavi goes out and agrees to SIGN Balde over Marcos Alonso that Summer), then in theory it should have been an easy deal for us and Valla to iron-out.
Loan+Option to buy, or even agree for 2024 and have him loaned to Valladolid this season so that they can re-promote.
Only kink to that type of structure would be Madrid wanting him right now like what happened with Guler. But compared to fuckin' Bournemouth now or Barcelona next season, then should be an easy choice, all day, everyday.
jamrock
Senior Member
Porque going a bit too hard on the Xavi narrative without a bit of context these days.
He's a new coach of course he was gonna go with players the he knows I.E Alonso, do you think Xavi was in qatar scouting all of Europe & S.A for every little player that has a name like the Barca forum scouts? Under our circumstances it's understandable especially especially when on a free, he moved for Alonso.
Cancelo is one of the best FB in the world & in his prime would be sily if he didn't go after him, if we could get him on a loan, over spending 20m on potential right this moment, gotta pick your poison.
You can't then throw out the 1 opportunity he's had to choose a young player over an established one, and every quickly chose the former, by saying oh blades talent was undeniable, because it most certainly wasn't, especially by the forum scouts , a look at his Trend will tell us that.
Very very few people would have bought Balde last summer if given the chance (me being one 😊 lol)
They're many coaches who would still choose alba over Balde last season, those are the coaches who strictly believe in vets only, Xavi quickly boated Alba.
So if anything what has been shown so far is he will choose the young talent Over the established player, if they show they are good enough.
No chance in a cold rainy night in stoke, xavi who played with a generation of masia players doesn't believe in youth, but our situation & context matters.
PS we definitely have the cash to sign this case, but tebas and his stupid rules are what they are.
He's a new coach of course he was gonna go with players the he knows I.E Alonso, do you think Xavi was in qatar scouting all of Europe & S.A for every little player that has a name like the Barca forum scouts? Under our circumstances it's understandable especially especially when on a free, he moved for Alonso.
Cancelo is one of the best FB in the world & in his prime would be sily if he didn't go after him, if we could get him on a loan, over spending 20m on potential right this moment, gotta pick your poison.
You can't then throw out the 1 opportunity he's had to choose a young player over an established one, and every quickly chose the former, by saying oh blades talent was undeniable, because it most certainly wasn't, especially by the forum scouts , a look at his Trend will tell us that.
Very very few people would have bought Balde last summer if given the chance (me being one 😊 lol)
They're many coaches who would still choose alba over Balde last season, those are the coaches who strictly believe in vets only, Xavi quickly boated Alba.
So if anything what has been shown so far is he will choose the young talent Over the established player, if they show they are good enough.
No chance in a cold rainy night in stoke, xavi who played with a generation of masia players doesn't believe in youth, but our situation & context matters.
PS we definitely have the cash to sign this case, but tebas and his stupid rules are what they are.
Hey, there's a bit of hyperbole there, and Cancelo is the best option if we can get a favourable deal- like what City gave to Bayern.
I'm just getting a sense of more short-termanism in his selection process and integrations compared to what we saw with the likes of Pep. Take for example when LaLiga is done and the B team guys don't even get a shot. Compare that to Pep and going back to Rijkaard who gave opportunities from Muniesa to Ramon Ros.
These are the small signals that his words are not really aligned with the actions.
Another case could be the US tour. Is Pau Prim the chosen one? Then take him to the US and give him that taste of it.
Do we have a plan for Estanis and have him in mind for future? Then take him and give him some minutes with the regulars.
I'm just getting a sense of more short-termanism in his selection process and integrations compared to what we saw with the likes of Pep. Take for example when LaLiga is done and the B team guys don't even get a shot. Compare that to Pep and going back to Rijkaard who gave opportunities from Muniesa to Ramon Ros.
These are the small signals that his words are not really aligned with the actions.
Another case could be the US tour. Is Pau Prim the chosen one? Then take him to the US and give him that taste of it.
Do we have a plan for Estanis and have him in mind for future? Then take him and give him some minutes with the regulars.
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