Ivan Rakitić

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Just imagine Rakitic being an STD away from getting sold. Will be interesting to see whether Valverde and the technical staff stand by their initial decision and bench Rakitc or lost faith in Arthur now. Exciting times.
 

Riordon

New member
I dont understand why its always Rakitic vs Arthur. Lets just value that while Arthur is out we have a very competent backup who on some occasions fits better than Arthur.
 

Nazario1985

Senior Member
I dont understand why its always Rakitic vs Arthur. Lets just value that while Arthur is out we have a very competent backup who on some occasions fits better than Arthur.

Nah it's not like that, people need a simple solution for problems : Raki out = Barca fine + Arthur is a WC / top 5 midfielders in the World & he proves it everyday !
 

devo901

New member
I dont understand why its always Rakitic vs Arthur. Lets just value that while Arthur is out we have a very competent backup who on some occasions fits better than Arthur.
Agreed, he can be seen as a solid filler ....

however Arthurs carreer slump is just very unfortunate timing, as our midfield is not super solid, which should be our backbone (because of posession), nor is our defender line solid (we get too many goals, and this having terStegen!!) plus board now reconfirmes trust in 31yeard old raki, (no replacement ? :(), all this while we have el classico just around the corner.

That makes some fans nervous ...
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
So it took 3 games which two of them included him shitting himself and nearly us conceding a goal due to his mistake for him to be no longer for sale?

Yeah, I hate the board but that is fucking hilarious by MD. The Board is probably happy that someone may be dumb enough to actually blow 30 Million on him come this summer. :lol:
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
You are overrating our players again.
You take one trait (solving problems) and you expand them to all other skills.

Again: Arthur is awesome in recycling possession and being press resistance.
He is quite shit in defending and in everything regarding creative play in the attacking third.

Now, look why:
Defensive contributions per match:
4,2 Modric 2013/14
4,1 Kroos 2016/17
4,0 Kroos 2014/15
3,7 Kroos 2015/16
3,7 Modric 2016/17
3,3 Modric 2014/15
3,0 Kroos 2017/18
3,0 Modric 2017/18
*******************
1,5 Arthur 2019/20
1,2 Arthur 2018/19

Key passes per match:
2,8 Kroos 2016/17
2,4 Kroos 2017/18
2,0 Kross 2014/15
1,9 Modric 2015/16
1,8 Kroos 2015/16
1,5 Modric 2017/18
1,5 Modric 2013/14
1,3 Modric 2016/17
1,2 Modric 2014/15
*****************
1,0 Arthur 2019/20
0,5 Arthur 2018/19

So, basically:
Kroos has around 3,5-4,0 defensive contribution per match in Real's years.
Modric is between 3,0 and 4,0 per match.
Our Arthur is at 1,5 currently.

In attack:
Kroos is at around 2,3 key passes per match in Real's years.
Modric is at around 1,5 key passes per match.
Arthur is at around 0,8.

So, basically, you are saying that Arthur could be as Modric-Kroos duo, even though he is equal as them ONLY in ONE AREA: press resistance and keeping possession.
While he is almost twice as worse in defensive and creative part.

I hope that you understand now why I think that you guys are insanely overrating Arthur's skills.
You are translating his one good skill into all other skills.

About learning and improving in the future: he already has bad professionalism, parties a lot, he could lose some weight, stamina problems, Std problems.
I am not too sure who safe is a bet that he will improve as expected in all of these areas from above with a current attitude and professionalism.

Why don't you bring those Modric and Kroos stats to the Messi v CR7 CL argument when we keep saying Messi needs more help from the geriatric midfield and you go

"But but CR7 is an alpha leader and Messi is a schoolboy"

It's like you know this difference in midfield quality existed between RM and us in their CL winning years but willingly chose to ignore it. :busquets:
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Distance covered first half for Barca:
1. Rakitic 6,06 km
2. Vidal 5,78
3. Griezmann 5,68
Then Alena and Wague.

Grandpa Raki covering the most.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
I would say Vidal has been bad. Rakitic nothing special until now. They can run all they want, but it won't make them better footballers
 

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