Jean-Clair Todibo
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khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Potential is the right word for him.
I don't think he is anywhere close to the needed level here, but he has the tools -especially physical ones- to be successful.
I don't think he is anywhere close to the needed level here, but he has the tools -especially physical ones- to be successful.
Physically he's a beast and on the ball he's doing those Xavi turns with ease.
But sometimes his body kinda gets in the way when he defends and his passing a little too risky at times.
What he clearly lacks is experience.
He's basically born with lots of talent with all the right tools to play at Barca. But a centre back can't succeed on talent alone, hence why most CB's hit their prime later in the career.
Playing time next to a veteran CB is the way to go.
But sometimes his body kinda gets in the way when he defends and his passing a little too risky at times.
What he clearly lacks is experience.
He's basically born with lots of talent with all the right tools to play at Barca. But a centre back can't succeed on talent alone, hence why most CB's hit their prime later in the career.
Playing time next to a veteran CB is the way to go.
xXKonan
Senior Member
According to MD, he wants to stay and fight for his spot and would only leave if the club forces him to.
He has offers from Watford, Southampton, Bayer 04 Leverkusen, Milan. The only attractive destination out of those 4 clubs is Bayer no doubt, the EPL teams that want him are fighting relegation or deep in it like Watford and Milan is looking for more experience.
Jonathon Tah has been pretty poor from what people say at Bayer.
He has offers from Watford, Southampton, Bayer 04 Leverkusen, Milan. The only attractive destination out of those 4 clubs is Bayer no doubt, the EPL teams that want him are fighting relegation or deep in it like Watford and Milan is looking for more experience.
Jonathon Tah has been pretty poor from what people say at Bayer.
devo901
New member
given the amount of games liga, copa, CL and on the other hand yellowcards rule, and our defender line age, I do see chances he gets playtime.
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
Banned
I must be missing something because I thought he showed outrageous potential. The obvious solution to us getting slaughtered away from home in the CL is the 532 come 352, which this squad is absolutely set up for. He is key if a back 3 is to be played because of the extra pace he brings.
He's ready and good to go now. Selling/loaning him out would be a massive mistake.
He's ready and good to go now. Selling/loaning him out would be a massive mistake.
Messi983
Senior Member
Or you can look at this from another perspective. We wouldn't give up on him permanently. He would be loaned or sold with a buy-back. He's talented but still very raw which is expected since he has only played around 15-20 senior games in his career. He can only improve if he plays regularly every week which he won't here so trying to get him minutes in another club is not a bad option.
Now that you've mentioned him I was about to ask last week about what happened with Tah but then I forgot. I've watched a few Bayer's games recently and he really didn't look good.
Agreed that Leverkusen would be the best option from the mentioned clubs though they are surely not the only ones interested. I wouldn't mind selling Todibo for around 10M (it was rumored some time ago we want that much) and include a 20M buy-back. In that case a buying club would have more incentive to play him regularly as if he'd be only on loan. It worked great for Carvajal and RM so why it wouldn't for us as well.
FCBarca
Mike the Knife
Problem with this perspective is that under this board, a loan or transfer with buyback has all resulted in the same outcome - exit. He was brought here less than 12 months ago, played a handful of matches despite the need for rotation. It would rather appear that the sporting strategy of the corporate board is simply to make money, not develop a team. Currently we have 2 legitimate starters in Pique & Lenglet - Umtiti may be working back into the rotation but is otherwise a longterm question mark due to his knees. So how that can translate to selling your best young CB asset less than 12 months after bringing him in, letting Eric Garcia depart and ignoring De Ligt in summer, it boggles the mind
If the club has to go back into the market for a legitimate rotation central defender, they would easily have to pay 2-7 times what they possibly could get from Todibo, it's illogical
Messi983
Senior Member
Players like Deu, Rafinha, Denis,... were all given a 2nd chance after a loan/buy-back. They didn't make it here because they were not good enough. Todibo has a higher ceilling but he'll never reach his potential playing 10-15 games/season. It's the best for him and the club to leave. If/when we'll need a 4th CB Araujo can play there. Even loaning him to a club where he'd play 15-20 games to the end of this season would help him progress more than staying here and we could eventually bring him back in summer. But we'll almost surely buy a new CB then as well to compete with Pique and Lenglet so there will be even less minutes for Todibo next year.
FCBarca
Mike the Knife
These players were never truly given a chance here, that's revisionism
Meanwhile, we're meant to believe that a few matches in 11 months has determined Todibo's future at the club. You can't have it both ways, the sporting direction is absolutely lost and being made up along the way
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