Joan Laporta

serghei

Senior Member
The case could be more complicated than "sales of VIP seats went through before the 31st of december". Let's assume we didn't have that payment confirmation, as we probably didn't.

I doubt the rules are written in very black and white phrases. If rules allow multiple courses of action, and you choose to select the one that is damaging to the players... that's a problem.

If there's any mention in the rules that could have been used to register the players despite not having full confirmation of received funds, and La Liga refused it, that's also a problem, they will have to explain it.

For example, La Liga could have received documents about the agreement of the VIP seats sale before 31st of december. Could they have considered that enough to register the players according to the rules? If yes, why didn't they register the players? Could they have provisionally registered the players based on the sale agreement, pending confirmation of received funds? If yes, why didn't they do that? Everything they did should be looked from the starting point of the players' right to work.

In short, it will probably be looked at from an angle of "could La Liga have registered the players with the documents they had", not from "could La Liga refuse registration based on available evidence". The so-called good faith. Did La Liga act in good-faith in relation to Dani Olmo and Pau Victor?
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
For someone supposedly knowing stuff on the financial side of things, you make many factually INCORRECT claims.



ARA has access to the resolution of the Superior Sports Council that allows the Terrassa native and Pau Víctor to continue playing Albert Nadal 01/10/2025

Barcelona The urgent injunction of the Superior Council of Sports (CSD), a body that depends on the Spanish government, is what has allowed Barça players Dani Olmo and Pau Víctor to have federation licenses and be able to play again, starting with the final of the Spanish Super Cup on Sunday, despite the refusal of the League and the Royal Spanish Football Federation to register them. The newspaper ARA has had first-hand access to the resolution of the CSD, which resolves in the following points the reasons why Olmo and Víctor must have a license as professional footballers.

The CSD considers, on the one hand, that "Barça suffers an immediate and irreparable impact on its sporting interests, since, as they did not have a license for the players, they cannot have them in the multiple matches that will be held, in different competitions, during the processing of the appeal. Similarly, the lack of availability of the players in question also irreparably affects sporting performance." "Irreparable economic damage" On the other hand, "the denial of the requested precautionary measure would also generate absolutely irreparable economic damage for Barça. First of all, there are obvious economic damages derived from the players' non-participation in official competitions, with the consequent decrease in income for Barça, such as the possible reduction in merchandising , lower ticket sales from fans who may be followers of these specific players, or the decrease in income from advertising contracts."

The CSD also appeals to the "right to work" of footballers and the fact that it is "in the public interest" that they can play domestic competitions. Apart from the damage that would be caused to the Barça club if Dani Olmo were to be released from contract, just a few months after signing him and without the right to collect the termination clause, which is around 500 million euros, as well as the market advantage - during the winter transfer window - that this would mean for other clubs. The government body, in addition, also points out that, "also, the lack of a license for these players would make it impossible for them to be called up by the national team". Without a federative license, Dani Olmo, a fixture in the Spanish national team, could not be called up, a point on which the CSD emphasizes. This 2025 will see the quarter-finals and play-offs of the Nations League, in which Spain is immersed. At the beginning of June, the final four will be played , which will decide the continental champion.

A key point in Barça's battle The CSD also resolves, and this is a key point for Barça's interests, that "in view of this resolution, it must be taken into account that [...] the club provided the documentation proving compliance with the economic control rules to achieve the aforementioned budgetary balance on December 31, 2024 and LaLiga communicated to the club the agreement of the Budget Validation Body on January 3, 2025. Whether or not the documentation was sent within the deadline and whether or not it should give rise to the extension of the licenses will be analyzed at the time the merits of the matter are addressed.

For now, however, the CSD considers that both players must have a license to play. The body chaired by José Manuel Rodríguez Uribes states that, leaving the players without a license, the "damage would have been irreparable". Legal sources consulted by ARA defend that the argument presented by Barça is "irrevocable" and that the Blaugrana entity will end up being right (beyond the urgent precautionary measure) despite the fact that the League has brought the CSD's resolution to ordinary justice this Friday. Therefore, Olmo and Víctor would have a license until the end of the season, the last day of June.

Read this, and read La Liga clubs comments, and Tebas comments.
The Case, atm, actually talks about players rights, and La Liga in itself think it defies the current system. This isn't just "timing" issue mate.
The case point in player and NT is the serious one, because if we win in court in April, and the comment on the player rights remain, this is where shit hit the fan in La Liga.
Olmo as a an employee, didn't do anything wrong in this situation, he signed a contract and moved to clubs, without any measures preventing the deal from either Spanish federation or FIFA, the governing body.
To not allow him licence to play, is harming the player from what he sees as a good career move, he either has change the coarse of his career, including a relocation, or having to wait without playing. To my knowledge, La Liga is the only organization that would do that, other FFP don't come near the players, but put fines, point deduction, transfer ban (future one, that everyone knows of in advance). No one comes after players. La Liga allow clubs to make transfers, sign contracts etc, then they decide how to register them. How is that fair to players? In a country with actually strong labour rights for players (early professional contracts, mandatory buyout clauses, strong player and referee unions)

Again, judging by the reactions, by the current ruling, This is an actual issue for La Liga, that could be challenged in court in the future, with a chance to win. Whether it will happen or not, remains to be seen.
Claiming "zero chance" is nonsense. Because every indication right now that this is an actual issue for Liga, far beyond "timing". and let's not pretend that any of us are legal experts in Spanish sports laws.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Premier League imposes fines and points deductions, and so does Italy I believe. Not sure about the process in Germany.

La Liga is the only European league with such a shitty system which isn't a surprise considering how incompetent, lazy and clueless governance in Spain tend to be.
 

RedxMAK

Active member
It is really sad to fathom in the beginning of 2016, we had more trophies domestically and internationally than Real Madrid. 9 years later and they have more in Europe. Man Bartomeu cost us our legacy, we have knobheads now saying it was never a rivalry, just for some guy who thought he was like Josep Lluis Nuñez but he wasn’t even 1/100th of the president he was.
 

RedxMAK

Active member
It is really sad to fathom in the beginning of 2016, we had more trophies domestically and internationally than Real Madrid. 9 years later and they have more in Europe. Man Bartomeu cost us our legacy, we have knobheads now saying it was never a rivalry, just for some guy who thought he was like Josep Lluis Nuñez but he wasn’t even 1/100th of the president he was.
2016 -
In Europe (honours) -
Barcelona - 20
Real Madrid - 18

2025 -
In Europe (honours)
Barcelona - 20
Real Madrid - 32
 

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