Johan Cruyff

Maradona37

Well-known member
Thought that.

You definitely can make that argument. He was very influential for Holland in the 70s, when he and Michels implemented total football. Then he brought the philosophy to Barca, and revolutionised the club and influenced all of its modern legends such as Guardiola, Laudrup, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi. He began a tradition and style of play which remains to this day.

And on top of that, modern teams are influenced by Guardiola's Barca team of 2008-2012.

Then you go back to the guys who influenced Michels. Sebes as one example.

It's fair to say that Cruyff and Michels are two of the most important figures in influencing the modern game, and their legacy lives on to this day and pervades every aspect of how football is played.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Thought that.

You definitely can make that argument. He was very influential for Holland in the 70s, when he and Michels implemented total football. Then he brought the philosophy to Barca, and revolutionised the club and influenced all of its modern legends such as Guardiola, Laudrup, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi. He began a tradition and style of play which remains to this day.

And on top of that, modern teams are influenced by Guardiola's Barca team of 2008-2012.

Then you go back to the guys who influenced Michels. Sebes as one example.

It's fair to say that Cruyff and Michels are two of the most important figures in influencing the modern game, and their legacy lives on to this day and pervades every aspect of how football is played.
I would say Pep has way bigger influence to world football than Cruyff, even though Pep learned from him.

During Cruyff's coaching period, he absolutely changed Barcelona's football, but not so much outside of Barca (though people really admired his style). His legacy grown bigger later with Pep and Barca.

It was Pep who reshaped modern game, made the world of football learn from him. Spain NT also changed forever with Pep's influence and that brought their best successes (it started from Euro 2008 but still, tiki taka was not a thing before Barca 2008/09), philosophy that all Spainish players know. You can see that in Spain 2024.

It's fair to say Barca are the club that influent football the most.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
I would say Pep has way bigger influence to world football than Cruyff, even though Pep learned from him.

During Cruyff's coaching period, he absolutely changed Barcelona's football, but not so much outside of Barca (though people really admired his style). His legacy grown bigger later with Pep and Barca.

It was Pep who reshaped modern game, made the world of football learn from him. Spain NT also changed forever with Pep's influence and that brought their best successes (it started from Euro 2008 but still, tiki taka was not a thing before Barca 2008/09), philosophy that all Spainish players know. You can see that in Spain 2024.

It's fair to say Barca are the club that influent football the most.

Pep isn't influencing shit without cryuff.
Enough said
 

RedxMAK

New member
Greatest Figure In The History Of This Club. Without Cruyff, No Dream Team, No Pep And Most Importantly No Messi. There Is A Before And After Cruyff For Barcelona, His Legacy Is Unmatched And IMO The Club Declined After He Got His Honorary Presidency Stripped Off
 

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