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the Liga table doesn't lie. It shows that we've not been sharp enough and it's the truth. but that's only one aspect of the table, it also shows that refs can be bought.
Manuel Traquete
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He's Pep's bitch. That's who he is.
Must be a hollow feeling to lead the league, knowing you're not the best team
It'd actually be extra credit to Mourinho if he won the league without being the best team. It is more difficult to succeed when your team isn't the best.
I'm pretty sure Mourinho and the Real fans will celebrate (and with good reason) if they win the league even if they lost both Clásicos. Winning the league is more important than winning El Clásico.
MagIX
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1) No. Show me where i wrote that breaking a leg is the same that stepping on someone's hand. Never wrote that.
2) Simply you dont get the point.
You dont deem these tackles right, but you want that a player who got such criminal tackle (if his leg is not broken) to shut up and stend up without claiming. For you doesen't matter the intention or the danger of this tackle: as i said, a fucking twisted logic!
Xavi_78
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Sorry but what would be Mou's doing if they win the league? Beat everybody apart from Barca? How is this showing of genial coaching, when you have the best squad in the league? They are leading the table, because we were complacent in some games and dropped points, not because of his phanatastic coaching. He has the best / most valuable squad, so to be first should be expected and not some kind of achievement
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Frejsgodes
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Pretty much, yeah. And as I wrote, if Barca knocks out Madrid in both the Copa, the CL and goes on to win both of those, it'll make it that much worse.
This madridista seems to realize it.
El Gato
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What criminal tackle? Are we still talking about the stomping on Messi's hand or something else? Plus I never said I want anyone to get up. As I said earlier, I know it hurts a bitch for a while after someone stomps on you, whether it's the hand, the leg, the arm or whatever. I played football and rugby here in England, I know what it's like to receive rough treatment.
Intentions? As I said, intentional off-ball fouling is not acceptable. Also what I said is that after that stomping you're raging out almost as if Pepe pulled a Casquero on Messi. It was NOT a dangerous incident. It was NOT what Juanito pulled on Matthaus ages ago (for what he was banned for 5 years in Europe).
Xavi_78 said:
So for you, winning something like 33-34 fixtures out of 38 is not fantastic coaching?
@Fresjgodes
I realize it too. Which is why I expressed my worries about Mourinho's inability to contain players' mentality which is letting Madrid down in the Clasicos earlier in this thread.
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Frejsgodes
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Would it really? Knowing that you only won it by a few points as a clear consequence of Barca's frequent screw ups. I would be nice for them, sure. But you didn't really beat Barca.
Manuel Traquete
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Indeed. They're not just beating teams, though. At this point, they have scored more goals and have better GD than any team in La Liga history after 18 games. They've been convincingly dominating La Liga so far.
You say they are first because we were complacent and dropped some points. Well, they didn't drop those points, hence why they've been better so far and have a five point lead. They definitely deserve credit for that. They have 20 consecutive wins against non-Barca, which is an incredible streak by all accounts. We'll have to up our game to win the league.
Manuel Traquete
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If the best team in the world had frequent screw ups and his team didn't it's because he's doing something right. And yes, they'd have really beaten Barca to the La Liga title. There's no two ways about it: head-to-head is only relevant in a league in case both teams finish with the same number of points. If not, it's just another match.
And since when is beating Barca more important than winning La Liga? If anyone at Real Madrid really believes that, they have their priorities screwed up.
I'd gladly accept losing to Madrid if that meant we won the treble.
Xavi_78
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Of course they are consistent and battering all other teams, there squad is the best in the whole word next to City. In the clasico last year the value of RM team against Barca was around 3:1.
Like I said, battering the other teams is the least you can expect from such a team,
Manuel Traquete
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The same applies to Barcelona, our squad is also infinitely superior to the other 18 teams in La Liga. Yet we haven't been able to do so, and Real have.
This is exactly the same stupid arguments some people use to diminish Pep's achievements, claiming that it's easy to do so with such a great team.
So far, Real are the best offensive team in La Liga history after 18 games. I have no idea how anyone can claim that they're doing nothing special. They're five points ahead of this great Barca side, that alone is pretty special and shows how great they've been this season.
Maria
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Exactly, they have played some great football and if they win La Liga they deserve to be congratulated. But let's wait until the 38th round before discussing Mou's achievements(although I believe RM is the favourite at the moment and not only because of the 5 points lead, but also because Barca's poor form away from home).
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