Josep Maria Bartomeu
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xXKonan
Senior Member
If he wants to save his own ass he would need to splash the 220 Million to do so. people are getting frustrated and he shouldn't even think about penny pinching or the Espai Barca project at this time. It would sure be great to have an actual elite team to go with the Espai Barca project.
My nightmare is Barto and the board don't make the signings we need and get half assed replacements while using a large portion of the transfer fee on the fucking Espai Barca project.
My nightmare is Barto and the board don't make the signings we need and get half assed replacements while using a large portion of the transfer fee on the fucking Espai Barca project.
Richard.H
Senior Member
It could be a blessing in disguise in some ways. Short term, we are most likely fuked next season. I'm going to treat next season as a "tanking" season using NBA terminology (assuming we only sign Inigo/no one). However, I'm sure the socios will realize what a joke Barto is and kick him out along with his company of crooks. We aren't going to be the Barca of old if this board stays. Sooner they are out, the sooner we can be on the right track.
NoExpectations
Banned
They haven't realized it till now, why would they wake up ? Neymar's departure hurts him, but not enough to boot him.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Laporta survived a motion of no confidence in a season where we went trophyless, where there were some serious allegations against him personally with regards to some shady shit in Uzbekistan, where the season was marred by off-field issues and Mundo Deportivo and Sport both called for him to be ousted.
He survived that, barely.
People who think Bartomeu who is supported by MD even now, will get ousted, could not be more wrong.
Just look back to 2008 and see how Laporta survived with literally everyone against him, and compare that to the situation right now when you have the biggest sports paper in Catalunya making up excuses for Bartomeu.
Do you think he will get ousted? Getting the 15% to initiate the process is easy. Getting the 66% to actually kick out the board is not. If Laporta managed to survive back in 2008, then I would bet my house Bartomeu will survive even if he signs shit players or signs no one.
I'm sorry to be so blunt, but people are delusional if they think he will get ousted. Just look at the process and recent history and you'll understand why it's unrealistic.
He survived that, barely.
People who think Bartomeu who is supported by MD even now, will get ousted, could not be more wrong.
Just look back to 2008 and see how Laporta survived with literally everyone against him, and compare that to the situation right now when you have the biggest sports paper in Catalunya making up excuses for Bartomeu.
Do you think he will get ousted? Getting the 15% to initiate the process is easy. Getting the 66% to actually kick out the board is not. If Laporta managed to survive back in 2008, then I would bet my house Bartomeu will survive even if he signs shit players or signs no one.
I'm sorry to be so blunt, but people are delusional if they think he will get ousted. Just look at the process and recent history and you'll understand why it's unrealistic.
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khaled_a_d
Senior Member
I agree that he will survive, but the situation right now is worse than Laporta in 2008
Laporta didn't lose a player he didn't want to sell for a far inferior club, he was the one who brought us CL after 14 years, our 2nd CL with a team filled of young La Masia players.
RM won 2 leagues, but now RM won 3 out of 4 CL. The fact they tried to sell the fans they are bringing Verratti and losing Neymar is huge crisis for them, more than a trophy less season. Never mind Laporta was bringing in Pep, a club legend and symbol, Valverde isn't anything close to that.
But 66% is just way too much.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
It's worse to us.
Not worse to the socis. 90% of this club's socis live in Catalunya, but how many of them actually care to vote? The elder socis will get their information from MD, Sport, La Vanguardia, ARA, etc.
The younger generation will use social media and other platforms even more, but they're also the ones who are less likely to vote because it's a fucked up generation that only knows how to whine, but do little about it.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Actually I think it is the opposite, losing a superstar that they built big part of their project will affect their reputation way more among older socios, if it was social media and youth I would say 2008 is worse.
But the club pride, football superstar and attractiveness of the club plays bigger role among older people, or at least that is what I think
This is worst state this club has been in a long time. I don't think people realize how close we are to falling into mid-table mediocrity. We're only a couple years from Busi, Iniesta, Messi and Suarez retiring/massively declining. If you look at our youth prospects right now the cupboards look really barren and this current board is beyond incompetent, failing to replace key players years after they retire. Things look bleak.
Look at Madrid on the other hand whom also have an aging team, but they've made the signings to replenish their squad year after year. Ronaldo or Bale need a rest? No problem just bring on Asensio or Isco. Kroos and Modric injured? All is well just bring on Kovavcic or Ceballos. Their team is stacked with promising player after promising player and they look good going into the future as they phase out certain star names. Their business model is also very sustainable; they buy young talents and the ones who don't make the cut are sold to desperate PL teams for massive profits. For instance, their sales of James (if Bayern exercise the buy option) and Morata alone are enough to cover a significant part of the fee for Mbappe.
Look at Madrid on the other hand whom also have an aging team, but they've made the signings to replenish their squad year after year. Ronaldo or Bale need a rest? No problem just bring on Asensio or Isco. Kroos and Modric injured? All is well just bring on Kovavcic or Ceballos. Their team is stacked with promising player after promising player and they look good going into the future as they phase out certain star names. Their business model is also very sustainable; they buy young talents and the ones who don't make the cut are sold to desperate PL teams for massive profits. For instance, their sales of James (if Bayern exercise the buy option) and Morata alone are enough to cover a significant part of the fee for Mbappe.
NoExpectations
Banned
Are you saying it is way off the mark bud ?
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
We are not only past the Gamper, but less than 1 week away from the Supercup. Our new signing(s) can have a max possible of 3 days of training starting Wednesday, if even that, before they do or don't play in the Supercup. We've already badly needed a midfield reinforcement over the course of 2 MONTHS but now we also badly need a LW replacement for Neymar. 2 crucial positions that need to be filled with key players.
What on earth kind of planning is this?? Farto and his cronies are paralyzed by their incompetence, incapable of executing anything or having any clue on the proper next step. The fact that Paulinho is still a heavily rumored option and none of our current operations seem to be going anywhere shows that they never got the memo and woke up, we might be in deep shit. This team is WORSE on paper than it was last season to a significant degree if you include the loss of a key player and further aging of other key players.
The board apologists have always been results oriented, saying we'll still challenge for the CL/Liga despite that. What kind of thing is that to concede? "It's OK that our team is that much worse because we'll still challenge since we have Messi and an improved coach". Their JOBS are to improve the team as much as possible and maximize the probability of us fighting for silverware; not to shit the bed, make horrible excuses, and then leave the team worse off but still have a finite chance of winning titles because we have Messi. Messi is the only reason they haven't been thoroughly exposed over the years. It's a shame that the best player ever has to be their instrument in maintaining enough of a level not to get booted out, but now they're pushing it to the limit.
What on earth kind of planning is this?? Farto and his cronies are paralyzed by their incompetence, incapable of executing anything or having any clue on the proper next step. The fact that Paulinho is still a heavily rumored option and none of our current operations seem to be going anywhere shows that they never got the memo and woke up, we might be in deep shit. This team is WORSE on paper than it was last season to a significant degree if you include the loss of a key player and further aging of other key players.
The board apologists have always been results oriented, saying we'll still challenge for the CL/Liga despite that. What kind of thing is that to concede? "It's OK that our team is that much worse because we'll still challenge since we have Messi and an improved coach". Their JOBS are to improve the team as much as possible and maximize the probability of us fighting for silverware; not to shit the bed, make horrible excuses, and then leave the team worse off but still have a finite chance of winning titles because we have Messi. Messi is the only reason they haven't been thoroughly exposed over the years. It's a shame that the best player ever has to be their instrument in maintaining enough of a level not to get booted out, but now they're pushing it to the limit.
I have big doubts that Farto will be ousted now. Yes, we lost Neymar, but we got shitload of money, also it was clear that Neymar was a snake and no one wanted that brat and his money hungry father in the club anyways. I wouldn't doubt if it was Messi Barto would probably run to police and admit all his guilt because the prison is the only place he could stay alive. But for Neymar I don't think so..I doubt he is under pressure to buy someone right now, because socis remember how it ended when Gaspart bought all the players after losing Figo . Add to that the highest earned revenue in the club history which was announced a month ago, I would say chances are very slim. He doesn't even have decent competition: Laporta ran an amateur campaign and all he does now is bitch and complain. The other guy? I don't know anything about him, I'm sure most of the socis are clueless as well. So brace yourself: we are going to see the ratface for some time ...
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
This is so true and right now it looks like everyone is coming to get our players. Since when teams have been able to get our players? Unless we wanted them to leave.. Our release clauses are way too small, Roberto, Umtiti etc. These are things we need to fix instantly. Teams are seeing team in free fall and are trying to get our players for cheap. This could turn out to be huge disaster.
Losing Neymar is a sign of weakness for sure. I know they triggered huge release clause, but I have to admit it looks more like Barcelona collapsing and teams are coming for easy pickings.
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