Neymessi
Active member
No. I mean the no-no making it a yes.
No. I mean the no-no making it a yes.
Neymessi
Active member
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Haha gone from 'mostly luck' to no luck involved.
Bit of form for flip flopping opinions now.
Bit of form for flip flopping opinions now.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Why not?
Joan
Well-known member
So luck had effect on us winning the league but we'd still win it if we weren't lucky?
I struggle here.
Neymessi
Active member
Bit of a reading omprehension issue I would say. No to his no made it a yes.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Haha the irony in that sentence.
A yes to his question means no luck involved anyway....
Neymessi
Active member
What is there to struggle?
Other 2 teams shit the bed. Had luck may not been with us we probably would have somehow still won it, but you give me a season where RM atletico are playing fine and we would have definitely lost it without luck.
You are being needlessly pedantic about luck. We ended at 93 points. Didn't deserve to end up so high. And this point tally is misleading. I am not belittling our win, I am a fan myself why would I? What I am saying is, for the 100th time, to not think that we don't have MASSIVE problems because we won the league with 14 points difference.
Do you disagree with my last line?
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JamDav1982
Senior Member
So Barca won 'mostly due to luck' but infact would have won the league without luck.
Good that is all sorted...
Good that is all sorted...
Neymessi
Active member
I addressed the no-no combo so yes means luck involved. A yes to the whole question would have meant no.
Joan
Well-known member
Since I started it, I'll explain.
You say: it's not true that luck had no effect on us winning the league meaning (1) luck had effect on us winning the league. Winning is the key word here. Later on, you claim, (2) if it wasn't for luck, we'd still win it due to some reasons.
(1) and (2) contradict themselves.
Now that we sorted it out, I do.
We have problems. Never denied that.
I'd much rather discuss our problems than luck.
Neymessi
Active member
So perfect that you are semantically pedantic. Lets say we won the league without luck by fnish 2 points above? What changes? After this shitload of essays of the last few pages written between us, you should go back to my first post where I said
Conveniently ignoring the main point and pedantically making it all about something else.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
Nah your just flip flopping opinion again.
Form for that then trying to explain what REALLY meant.
Neymessi
Active member
Without luck it would have 75% chance that we win. So it just gave us a massive buffer this time. Had we ended up 2 points ahead of RM maybe then people would gauge our performance differently. Right now people are overhyping our season because we won by 14 points clear. This is the main thing. Not just the win but the points difference. And thats what is lucky. If not for winning la liga we are definitely lucky to win by that many points.
You mean you agree with me right? Coz your follow up post feels like you do but you said you don't.
Neymessi
Active member
Is you real name Jamdav or is it a combination of first 3 alphabets of your first and last name?
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