Andrew M
New member
Well Barto will probably leave the club with the highest annual revenues in the world according to Deloitte
Well Barto will probably leave the club with the highest annual revenues in the world according to Deloitte
Sailor Mars
Well-known member
Doesn't Barca include transfer sales in their statements, compared to other clubs that don't? Plus wages as a percentage of revenue is way higher than any other club.
The closest comparable to Barca is Real Madrid. And they have a better wage structure and haven't been spending wild money every summer.
Barca's net spend has been considerably higher than Madrid's the past 4-5 years too.
Andrew M
New member
When Deloitte publish their annual football money league in a couple weeks, this will be the top 4 excluding player sales:
Barca: €852
Real Madrid: €757
Man Utd: €732
Bayern: €650
Madrid will get their new 100 mill adidas deal from 2020, but even that won't close the gap by 2021.
Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:
Juve: 71%
Atletico: 70%
Roma: 64%
PSG: 61%
Barca: 59%
Liverpool: 58%
Arsenal: 57%
Inter: 56%
Chelsea: 54%
Dortmund: 54%
Man Utd: 53%
Man City: 52%
Bayern: 48%
Real Madrid 48%
Spurs 39%
Sailor Mars
Well-known member
I mostly went off the KPMG report from last year (don't think they have released one for 2020 yet) regarding the staff wages to turnover ratio which put Barca at 81%. It puts Real Madrid ahead on operating revenues as well.
https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/br/pdf/2019/06/the-european-elite-2019a.pdf
https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/br/pdf/2019/06/the-european-elite-2019a.pdf
Does look impressive. Then again for a long time I read Barca wages where 70-80 % (but that maybe includes sign-on bonuses and normal bonuses - which we use fairly often compared to other clubs)??
Didn't we even take a 35m loan to fund transfers? And what about or debt. When the board took over, I often read reports about how we where decreasing our debt and 4-5 years later I read its 800m euro? And not to forget the new stadium which also will be costly
Andrew M
New member
I believe in 2010 the net debt was 442 million euros. According to the club, the current net debt is 217 million as of June 2019. The current board is actually pretty good with the finances. It's the sporting planning which leaves a lot to be desired.
Our annual wage bill is 501 million, Madrid's is 362 million. But Messi is a big factor in that
To compare, Real Madrid actually have zero net debt which is very impressive. But they have taken out that loan for the stadium.....
Perhaps the figures are manipulated to look good with debt etc, but that's what they say.
Our EBIDTA is 72 million
5ergio_Busquets
New member
Replacing a yes man with another yes man, great job Barto!
Club de amigos must be happy with this decision.
Club de amigos must be happy with this decision.
serghei
Senior Member
The irony of your statement is that he was fired from Betis because he wasn't a yes man.
FinBarcelonafan
Well-known member
What is the story with him and Betis? Why was let go then?
gregorrin10
Senior Member
Because he wanted the club to buy a new CF, they were creating a shitload of chances but there was no one good to finish them, if he had Iglesias and Fekir, the team Betis has now, he'd probably take Betis to the CL back then.
Messigician
Senior Member
🎙[SPORT] | Bartomeu: We spoke with a lot of coaches, we needed a boost
🔊 Bartomeu: “We have known for a while that the team's dynamic and performances could be improved, even thought results have been very good.”
🔊 Bartomeu: “Obviously, I would have liked things to happen differently. During recent weeks we have spoken with different managers, including Setien. Until now, nothing had been published, but, and I insist, I would have liked things to have happened differently."
🔊 Bartomeu: "We'd spoken with Valverde many times. We are halfway through the season and we felt we needed a boost for what remains of the campaign. And, with that, we want to win La Liga, the Champions League and the Copa del Rey."
🔊 Bartomeu: "I always backed Valverde, I like him as a coach, as a person, for the club. A year ago I personally backed him despite everything that was said and the petitions for him to be sacked, but in recent weeks, the dynamic wasn't good."
🔊 Bartomeu: "Abidal and Ramon (Planes) spoke with him, he was in the loop about everything and we thought that it was best to make a change. And (with Setien) we start from a good point, top of the league."
🔊 Bartomeu: " Valverde's written a goodbye letter today, showing the great person he is and the values he has. We're friends."
🔊 Bartomeu: “We have known for a while that the team's dynamic and performances could be improved, even thought results have been very good.”
🔊 Bartomeu: “Obviously, I would have liked things to happen differently. During recent weeks we have spoken with different managers, including Setien. Until now, nothing had been published, but, and I insist, I would have liked things to have happened differently."
🔊 Bartomeu: "We'd spoken with Valverde many times. We are halfway through the season and we felt we needed a boost for what remains of the campaign. And, with that, we want to win La Liga, the Champions League and the Copa del Rey."
🔊 Bartomeu: "I always backed Valverde, I like him as a coach, as a person, for the club. A year ago I personally backed him despite everything that was said and the petitions for him to be sacked, but in recent weeks, the dynamic wasn't good."
🔊 Bartomeu: "Abidal and Ramon (Planes) spoke with him, he was in the loop about everything and we thought that it was best to make a change. And (with Setien) we start from a good point, top of the league."
🔊 Bartomeu: " Valverde's written a goodbye letter today, showing the great person he is and the values he has. We're friends."
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