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beautifulgame

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no.

what you guys don't understand is the necessity of having wingbacks that can attack and provide width in the game today. that width to the by line is actually the best way to crack very defensive teams.

see madrid second goal vs atleti in their league meeting

or see both of atleti's goals vs. chelsea

or see chelsea's goal vs. atleti.

see neymar supercopa goal vs. atleti.

all of the top teams require an option of two wingbacks that are good both forward and back.

see bayern, madrid, atleti, chelsea, barca etc.
 
Alarcón

Alarcón

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beautifulgame said:
no.

what you guys don't understand is the necessity of having wingbacks that can attack and provide width in the game today. that width to the by line is actually the best way to crack very defensive teams.

see madrid second goal vs atleti in their league meeting

or see both of atleti's goals vs. chelsea

or see chelsea's goal vs. atleti.

see neymar supercopa goal vs. atleti.

all of the top teams require an option of two wingbacks that are good both forward and back.

see bayern, madrid, atleti, chelsea, barca etc.
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Good post... That's why players like Azpilicueta would never work at an offensive team

Being an offensive full-back doesn't mean you can't defend. Alba has been instructed to stay back a lot of the time this season and he's been defending pretty well. Having a defense-only full-back as a starter would be a disaster.
 
Sumlit

Sumlit

San Claudio Bravo
Alarcón said:
Good post... That's why players like Azpilicueta would never work at an offensive team

Being an offensive full-back doesn't mean you can't defend. Alba has been instructed to stay back a lot of the time this season and he's been defending pretty well. Having a defense-only full-back as a starter would be a disaster.
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I disagree. Abidal was a defensive fullback. He could project forward, but it was rare and it wasn't his forte. The team needs a defensively strong fullback to keep a 3 man backline when the team goes on full attack.

When Barcelona was being successful and winning everything, they could deploy a back 3 of Abidal, Pique and Puyol to cover the back for the team.
 
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Learo

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But Bartra is ready and is perfect for the RB role. Lots of exciting runs forward, likes to both shoot and can dribble. But ultimately a strong defensive full back with good heading abilities. A new Abidal on the right.
 
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Meitux

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Idk why they are even talks about this guy, or why is he seriously considered, he isn't even playing in RB. For the past couple of seasons he plays as a winger. He would distablise the defence even more than Alves did. As some people said before and its been said already many times in the past. We need a defensive minded fullback now. One offensive which we have in Alba and the other one be the Abidal kind of fullback, to have more defensive abilities and also that won't attack much and will stay back and cover when the other attacks.
 
DonAndres

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Learo said:
But Bartra is ready and is perfect for the RB role. Lots of exciting runs forward, likes to both shoot and can dribble. But ultimately a strong defensive full back with good heading abilities. A new Abidal on the right.
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Disagree. Bartra's linkup and footwork just doesn't seem like that of a fullback at all. You could use the same cookie-cutter analysis to say that Pique or Luiz could go to be a "defensive RB", but in reality they do not have the profile for it.

Bartra is fit for the CB role. He's not stable enough in 1v1's to defend as a fullback, he's not great under tight spaces/pressure that he'll face on the flank, and he doesn't have the profile even near to that of a right back. Even a defensive fullback should have stability under pressure and composure to play on the flanks. Bartra doesn't. He can position himself well and recover loose balls but that proves the point more as those are CB qualities.
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
DonAndres said:
Disagree. Bartra's linkup and footwork just doesn't seem like that of a fullback at all. You could use the same cookie-cutter analysis to say that Pique or Luiz could go to be a "defensive RB", but in reality they do not have the profile for it.

Bartra is fit for the CB role. He's not stable enough in 1v1's to defend as a fullback, he's not great under tight spaces/pressure that he'll face on the flank, and he doesn't have the profile even near to that of a right back. Even a defensive fullback should have stability under pressure and composure to play on the flanks. Bartra doesn't. He can position himself well and recover loose balls but that proves the point more as those are CB qualities.
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except Luiz was a RB and a good one. i agree with you though
 
Ursegor

Ursegor

World Champion
Meitux said:
Idk why they are even talks about this guy, or why is he seriously considered, he isn't even playing in RB. For the past couple of seasons he plays as a winger.
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Actually he isn't even playing as a winger but as a second striker these days.

Don't know why we don't just convert Alexis to be a rightback. Already tracks back more than Alves anyway and has all the skillsets needed for the position. It's what has been done with Alba at Valencia.
 
Ursegor

Ursegor

World Champion
Nah, I don't think he's comfortable as an attacker from right wing. He blossoms much more when he is played centrally. He doesn't like to go 1 vs. 1 (admitted himself he needs to work on it) and he can't cut inside and shoot with his left. Majority of his goals have been Mario Gomez-esque tap-ins. Clasico goal and that freekick aside. If we truly get Cuadrado I'd keep and try Alexis and Cuadrado together on that flank. In theory in tandem they'd provide defensive and offensive energy en masse, although neither on his own is a dedicated fullback.
 
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