Kylian Mbappé

Havesaks

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Actually some of them do, for example Vietnam, a communist country and an equally authoritarian state just like China. The US has been cozying up to Vietnam in the last decade with multiple USN warships making port calls in Vietnam, almost making no beeps about Vietnam’s human rights etc., even mulling to sell weapons to Vietnam. Why? Because they consider Vietnam a friend who can be enlisted to help contain China.

Make no mistake, China is bad and I am not defending China’s system or its human rights record etc. But China does not go around the world preaching its systems and values to others, shoveling them down the throat in the typical “if you are not with us, you are against us” American/western fashion. China does not pretend or proclaim it is the best. China does not tell you what YOU should do.

Actually some of them do, for example Vietnam, a communist country and an equally authoritarian state just like China. The US has been cozying up to Vietnam in the last decade with multiple USN warships making port calls in Vietnam, almost making no beeps about Vietnam’s human rights etc., even mulling to sell weapons to Vietnam. Why? Because they consider Vietnam a friend who can be enlisted to help contain China.

Make no mistake, China is bad and I am not defending China’s system or its human rights record etc. But China does not go around the world preaching its systems and values to others, shoveling them down the throat in the typical “if you are not with us, you are against us” American/western fashion. China does not pretend or proclaim it is the best. China does not tell you what YOU should do.

vietnam i don't personally consider the west tbf - the true west isnt even USA, because as you say its a shit country, just as russia, china, brazil etc. Centraleurope, scandinavia and south europe is the true west, or the ones true to the ideals preached by the general west. I really think I'm blessed living in scandinavia all tho we also have our problems

About USA preaching. They still do live up to human rights etc to a some extend. But yes the states should imo all be separate countries, there shouldn't exist a country above 20-30m. Nobody profits from it. The ideal would be Switzerlands system.
 

Arizona Scott

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...About USA preaching. They still do live up to human rights etc to a some extend. But yes the states should imo all be separate countries, there shouldn't exist a country above 20-30m. Nobody profits from it. The ideal would be Switzerlands system.

I can't say much positive for our government and geopolitics at the moment except that I hope it will get notably better in 18 months time. Only 40% of the voters in the US support domestic and international policies and rhetoric, and probably only 25% of everyone in the US.

I do sometimes think it would be nice in Southern Arizona and the Pacific States joined Canada and became the "Southwest Canadian Province". But California alone has twice the population you are projecting for a nation so maybe that is an issue.

I will also add much of the recent immigration scapegoating and nationalism is a sad state of much of the Wes,t however you define it. Canada and New Zealand IMO are pretty good models in this regard--and obviously not in Europe.
 

Horatio

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Neymar is a poison for the sport. Would make me give up my passport if I were Brazilian.





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Newcomer

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Another penalty miss :messi:

He is really bad at it.

Thankfully Neymar is coming back soon.

Mbappé should not get near any penalty or free kick. He just doesn't have the technique for that. Or he should work on that.

The most shocking thing in that match is Verratti shooting and scoring. He had already done that few days ago with Italia. Think we are aporaching the end of times when Verratti voluntarily tries to kick the ball and scores.
 

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Neymar is a poison for the sport. Would make me give up my passport if I were Brazilian.





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Laughable post.

So now, Neymar is responsible of Mbappe dives. Lmao.

If one has to be criticized, it should be the young french and only him.

I guess you don't watch Neymar at PSG much. He rarely dives, and if he does, it is not those bad dives like Mbappé is doing. Neymar for all accounts will "sell" you the foul by overacting on the ground. But he is most often that not being fouled or "touched" by the opponent.

I have to admit that Neymar is fantastic though. Even without playing since months, people are finding ways to be angry at him and declare him guilty of things he has no relevancy.
 

Horatio

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Laughable post.

So now, Neymar is responsible of Mbappe dives. Lmao.

If one has to be criticized, it should be the young french and only him.

I guess you don't watch Neymar at PSG much. He rarely dives, and if he does, it is not those bad dives like Mbappé is doing. Neymar for all accounts will "sell" you the foul by overacting on the ground. But he is most often that not being fouled or "touched" by the opponent.

I have to admit that Neymar is fantastic though. Even without playing since months, people are finding ways to be angry at him and declare him guilty of things he has no relevancy.

Hello Brazilian.
 

Havesaks

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Laughable post.

So now, Neymar is responsible of Mbappe dives. Lmao.

If one has to be criticized, it should be the young french and only him.


I guess you don't watch Neymar at PSG much. He rarely dives, and if he does, it is not those bad dives like Mbappé is doing. Neymar for all accounts will "sell" you the foul by overacting on the ground. But he is most often that not being fouled or "touched" by the opponent.

I have to admit that Neymar is fantastic though. Even without playing since months, people are finding ways to be angry at him and declare him guilty of things he has no relevancy.

General speaking, he no relevancy playing in Ligue 1, yes, but in regard of being a diva or might you say diver is pretty well-known.
 

Newcomer

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" neymar rarely dives"

LMAO did you even watch the world cup?

The sentence just before is " I guess you don't watch Neymar at PSG much".

The guy i was answering to has managed to villify Neymar and subsequently wanted to shame a whole country, Brazil, because Mbappé, a young french player, dived.

Does this make sense to any of you ?

If what Neymar does in World Cup is so important, i guess we could say that Neymar is the root of any dive in the world.
 
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Newcomer

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Hello Brazilian.

Well, you couldn't be more far from the truth.

I'm no brazilian and have no personal connection with this country at all. I just abhor nonsense.

I have already talked about the diving thing, mentioning Suarez. He is known for his diving, biting antics. Yet, i don't see any Barça player that followed his steps (not saying Barça don't have divers, every team has).
So, the whole idea Mbappé dives because of Neymar is ridiculous. Mbappé dives because Mbappé wants to dive.
Neymar is excellent at penalty kick while Mbappé is bad. Is it Neymar influence showing too ?

I really don't understand the needs and the length some can go in order to link any evil of this world to Neymar and even Brazil, in this case.
But well, someone from Turkey criticizing Brazil. Turkey the shining beacon of righteousness in this world, am i right ?
 

Givenchy

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Neymar doesn't actually do those type of no contact pathetic dives as much these days. even in the world cup, he was being fouled but exaggerated the contact. both are scummy but to blame Neymar for Mbappe acting his age is crazy

i think Mbappe just has too much power for his age and its showing in his attitude lately, one of the seniors should talk to him, especially after that AdM penalty situation
 

Newcomer

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Neymar doesn't actually do those type of no contact pathetic dives as much these days. even in the world cup, he was being fouled but exaggerated the contact. both are scummy but to blame Neymar for Mbappe acting his age is crazy

Thank you !

Someone actually watching football !

Even the meme where Neymar keeps on rolling and rolling was actually a foul. Neymar just milked it too much and cried too much on the floor. The foul was real though.
 

Givenchy

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yeah that Neymar rolie polie olie meme was after someone stood on him off the pitch iirc.. mainly trying to get the refs attention. he rubs players up the wrong way for sure and we also saw him targeted for Barca
 

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