La Liga 2018/19

[serghei]

Aye, that's right. Except this is where you find the worth of a manager that's relatively unproven at this level. One game with a goal or making one formation tweak could have saved his job. Now? Unlikely.



To Barca it doesn't, sure. Valverde is mediocre, but he's as good as your team is on average. Our team's average quality is not matched by that of the manager.


PS Actually this 4-2-4 we played today may be his saving grace, because it nullified anything negative against us. If we manage to play this way against Barcelona and get a good result, he may be given another few games.

That's really not true. You really think Barcelona can't win the CL with a great manager in charge? Seriously? We can beat any team any time anywhere, the problem is we produce great performances randomly, scattered through the season, whereas other top teams produce them at the right time. This is part of coaching. We play well when we click well, the manager has a very low influence on that. I've seen low importance games in which the team gave more effort and ran more, and pressed more, than in key games in CL. If that's not purely on management I'm not sure what is the manager's role anymore.

Correct prioritization of games, correct handling of the fitness of players, correct management of rotations, motivating the players to perform to their best level at certain key moments. These are things where great management becomes huge.

 

[El Flaco]

Real Madrid lost due to Varane's stupid mistakes that gifted Levantes 2 goals.

Levante's GK had hell of a game today, turned into prime Kameni.

 

[El Gato]

That's really not true. You really think Barcelona can't win the CL with a great manager in charge? Seriously? We can beat any team any time any where

Nope. Sorry.

 

[serghei]

Nope. Sorry.

Then how come we keep beating Madrid on Bernabeu, sometimes ever trashing them while Madrid win the CL? How do you explain that? How do you explain that Madrid win the CL while Barcelona consistently score 3 or 4 goals at their home ground?

Recent results vs Madrid on Bernabeu in La Liga are 4-0, 3-2, 3-0. 10 goals in 3 games, 3 wins, 0 losses. Does those look like the type of results a non-elite team is able to make? Come on... Barcelona are obviously an elite team with really bad managerial choices in recent years.

 

[El Gato]

Then how come we keep beating Madrid on Bernabeu, sometimes ever trashing them while Madrid win the CL? How do you explain that? How do you explain that Madrid win the CL while Barcelona consistently score 3 or 4 goals at their home ground?

Recent results vs Madrid on Bernabeu in La Liga are 4-0, 3-2, 3-0. 10 goals in 3 games, 3 wins, 0 losses.

You couldn't beat top teams in 2 legged ties for 9 years regularly and you want to do it now with a weaker side? Nope.

 

[Morten]

Nope. Sorry.

Come now, ofc they can win it a better manager, as can many other teams.

 

[khaled_a_d]

You really think Barcelona can't win the CL with a great manager in charge? Seriously?

With current squad? Can't see it happening with any manager. Only super luck (Chelsea 2012 type of luck) could make it happen.

 

[serghei]

You couldn't beat top teams in 2 legged ties for 9 years regularly and you want to do it now with a weaker side? Nope.

No team beats the other teams consistently in CL? Who does?

 

[Morten]

Then how come we keep beating Madrid on Bernabeu, sometimes ever trashing them while Madrid win the CL? How do you explain that? How do you explain that Madrid win the CL while Barcelona consistently score 3 or 4 goals at their home ground?

Recent results vs Madrid on Bernabeu in La Liga are 4-0, 3-2, 3-0. 10 goals in 3 games, 3 wins, 0 losses. Does those look like the type of results a non-elite team is able to make? Come on... Barcelona are obviously an elite team with really bad managerial choices in recent years.

La liga and CL, cant compare, this RM is like two different sides, depending if they play in CL or not.

 

[Cule4life]

Hahahaha now people saying Barca squad is so shit it can't even win the CL with a great manager?

What has dear Valverde done to inspire this kind of hysteria around him? Jesus would be jealous

Poor Valverde getting burdened with deadweights like Messi, Umititi, Alba, Arthur etc. Not even Arrigo Sachi could dream of winning CL with this mediocre squad

 

[serghei]

La liga and CL, cant compare, this RM is like two different sides, depending if they play in CL or not.

So are Barca. Except reversed. If Madrid's shitty games in La Liga can't be used to measure their quality, neither can Barca's shitty games in Europe be used to undermine their quality.

 

[Messigician]

Wolfe is on cheap weed effect. Madrid are just back to normal without Ronaldo nothing to see here. And yes Barcelona are always a threat in UCL

 

[D10S_JC]

RM's front three are Asensio, Lucas and Mariano.
I'm sure it is the worst attacking line of RM since I watch football.

 

[El Gato]

No team beats the other teams consistently in CL? Who does?

Lol, mate.. Look, either you can look forward to having a Chelsea run or a Leicester run with a worse squad and manager doing a perfect job on his end, or you'll just have to accept there are periods of time where you physically can't aim high. Fact of life. Blind ambition and telling oneself one can bang through a brick wall with their forehead over time is just going to make one look silly TBH

 

[serghei]

RM's front three are Asensio, Lucas and Mariano.
I'm sure it is the worst attacking line of RM since I watch football.

Bale and Benzema are still here and they scored all 3 of Madrid's goals in the CL final. Both Barca and Madrid have elite squads with some weak spots. But other teams have even more weak spots compared with Barca and Madrid.

Lol, mate.. Look, either you can look forward to having a Chelsea run or a Leicester run with a worse squad and manager doing a perfect job on his end, or you'll just have to accept there are periods of time where you physically can't aim high. Fact of life. Blind ambition and telling oneself one can bang through a brick wall with their forehead over time is just going to make one look silly TBH

This is not one of those moments. This is not a super-weak version of Barcelona who can't aim higher Ridiculous claim to make regarding a team who walked the best league in the world last season.

There are teams who lack quality, and teams who lack great management. It's pretty clear which one is current Barcelona.