La Liga 2022/23

[serghei]

But imo EPL and Bundesliga are also the most "branded" leagues. Meaning they developed an inhouse style that all teams adhere to. And fans confuse that with some sort of superiority in playing the game. When it's not. It's just a style the local fans there expect to see and cherish week in week out, so almost all teams play it.

Italian (before the decline of Serie A) and Spanish teams are much more pragmatic and chameleonic. More result-oriented if you may.

 

[JamDav1982]

The EPL has teams playing a variety of styles.

From City being most 'technical' side in the world to other end with like of Dyche being about pace/power.

There is no one style there.

 

[serghei]

City feel like an imported product. Like serving wine in a pub.

 

[JamDav1982]

City feel like an imported product. Like serving wine in a pub.

Irrelevant really.

Barcas style is 'imported' if want to break it down to that.

Pep has adapted every season more or less also.

 

[gregorrin10]

Holy shit, just saw that Sevilla and Valencia might both go down this season. Thanks Tebas, he truly destroyed this league as a whole, with his fucking salary cap bull shit. No other league in the world has this crap, much less so strictly. Can't believe how nobody seems to be able to even question his decisions, much less challenge them (and overthrow him). La Liga surely can't go on like this...can it? Pretty sure even the most hardcore fans will eventually get tired of watching it, if this non quality football drags on...

 

[raskolnikov]

At this point ik in favour of Barca seperating from la liga and join ligue 1. Or just superleague. Fuck tebas.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Holy shit, just saw that Sevilla and Valencia might both go down this season. Thanks Tebas,

They support him, approved every move he made. I like them both but if they got relegated I won't mind it.
They thought they are immune from their own actions, would be good to taste from their own medicine.

Can't believe how nobody seems to be able to even question his decisions, much less challenge them (and overthrow him). La Liga surely can't go on like this...can it?

Why would they challenge him?
-Tebas asked for La Liga to enforce salary cap, clubs approved (including Barca btw).
-He refused to make rules flexible during Covid, and most clubs were happy with it.
-He told them CVC is good, and 38 clubs out of 42 said yes and voted for it.
-He made restrictions on registering players from reserve team without being counted against salary cap, clubs were happy.
-He asked for clubs to approve an even more restricted rules in past November, and they approved.

Tebas is a piece of shit, but he works for the league and not vice versa, he is an employee for those clubs and can do nothing without their approval.
Most Spanish clubs are just happy with him, and happy that he limiting funding, competition, dragging money out of the big dogs etc.
At some point, we gotta face the reality, the guy is just a representation of the Spanish football as it stands.

 

[ajnotkeith]

City feel like an imported product. Like serving wine in a pub.

They once were. But now seeing possession ball/JDP coaches in Prem is very common.

Arteta, Pep, ETH all there that follow that school of football and coaching the top teams.

 

[Porque]

There are whispers that Valencia management are not adverse to relegating. The reason being the large compensation package they would receive and a chance to regulate their funds.

Similarly to Villarreal a decade back.

It sounds absurd, but with management half way round the world, they can sit back and play the long game.

 

[ajnotkeith]

There are whispers that Valencia management are not adverse to relegating. The reason being the large compensation package they would receive and a chance to regulate their funds.

Similarly to Villarreal a decade back.

It sounds absurd, but with management half way round the world, they can sit back and play the long game.

Might be important to note that according to Archivo VAR (account which reviews the refereeing performances of every Liga Santander and smartbank game) Valencia is the team who has lost the most points out of anyone due to refereeing errors. We saw it yesterday potentially as well.

Could just be coincidence or linked to something, maybe a reason they are doing so badly...

 

[Messi983]

They support him, approved every move he made. I like them both but if they got relegated I won't mind it.
They thought they are immune from their own actions, would be good to taste from their own medicine.



Why would they challenge him?
-Tebas asked for La Liga to enforce salary cap, clubs approved (including Barca btw).
-He refused to make rules flexible during Covid, and most clubs were happy with it.
-He told them CVC is good, and 38 clubs out of 42 said yes and voted for it.
-He made restrictions on registering players from reserve team without being counted against salary cap, clubs were happy.
-He asked for clubs to approve an even more restricted rules in past November, and they approved.

Tebas is a piece of shit, but he works for the league and not vice versa, he is an employee for those clubs and can do nothing without their approval.
Most Spanish clubs are just happy with him, and happy that he limiting funding, competition, dragging money out of the big dogs etc.
At some point, we gotta face the reality, the guy is just a representation of the Spanish football as it stands.

Exactly.

La Liga deserves to be where it is as long as clubs are supporting this guy.

He's probably selling them the idea to make La Liga more competitive but rather than raise level of other 18 clubs he's trying to lower Barca (well, mostly us) and Madrid's level.

And those clubs mostly hate big two teams so they are happy to do what Tebas wants.

 

[ajnotkeith]

Exactly.

La Liga deserves to be where it is as long as clubs are supporting this guy.

He's probably selling them the idea to make La Liga more competitive but rather than raise level of other 18 clubs he's trying to lower Barca (well, mostly us) and Madrid's level.

And those clubs mostly hate big two teams so they are happy to do what Tebas wants.

The thing is it makes the rest even worse.

The distance of other teams from Barca and Madrid, despite Barca and Madrid being.the worst for a long time historically themselves, is becoming bigger than it's ever been.

The entire level of the league is reducing.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Exactly.

La Liga deserves to be where it is as long as clubs are supporting this guy.

He's probably selling them the idea to make La Liga more competitive but rather than raise level of other 18 clubs he's trying to lower Barca (well, mostly us) and Madrid's level.

And those clubs mostly hate big two teams so they are happy to do what Tebas wants.

Not just about hate, I think they also like the financial model.
Most owners aren't big dog type of of businessmen like EPL for example, they probably prefer avoiding turning into Calcio V2 in pursuit for trying to be EPL.
Barca, RM and Bilbao being fan owned, those owners simply don't relate to them and probably don't care about them either.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Teams are happy because it takes less money to compete in the league. Instead of trying to bring more money into league you can just work with less money and less risk.

That's good in a way(for the clubs), but when PL clubs and other leagues are bumping up the price of every prospect/player in the world, it means we will be out of those world class prospects/players because we don't have enough money.

This leads to less quality.. of the league and teams.

It's very bad attitude to have.

So Fuck Tebas and whoever supports him.

LaLiga needs more financing, not less.

 

[Messi983]

The thing is it makes the rest even worse.

The distance of other teams from Barca and Madrid, despite Barca and Madrid being.the worst for a long time historically themselves, is becoming bigger than it's ever been.

The entire level of the league is reducing.

Ofc, most of us are aware of that.

But clubs don't know or they don't care or they just can't do anything anymore after giving all that power to Tebas to make decisions in their name. He can manipulate with them as he wants.

Whatever it is they deserve to be where they are as long as guys like Tebas and Rubiales (he's not much better) are in charge of Spanish football. Where are some retired former players/legends who could take over? They just don't care or do they really think Tebas and Rubiales are doing their best for Spanish football longterm?

IIRC Casillas was a candidate to be a RFEF president few years ago but later withdraws his candidacy. And I don't think anyone would really challenge Tebas as his chances would be close to zero. Perez is probably the only man in Spanish football who could do that and tbh I'd rather see him as a LFP president than Tebas which really says it all. At least Florentino knows what he's doing and has results to show for. Will ofc never happen though.