La Liga 2022/23

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Well he said that he was 80, they probably assume that he passed away.

i will live until 100 at least

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Don't disrespect Braith but true on the first part. Morata-Ronaldo partnership was great for the first half of 20-21 with Pirlo.

yeah right, both were a beast duo in first half, in second it was chiesa-Ronaldo siu

 

[Birdy]

It has been already confirmed it is now obligation to buy, the 50%, was in last year.
They are already trying to get rid of him because of it

No man.
It concerns the whole 2-yr loan period, and not only last season.
Read Toni's explanation

If he doesn't play more than 45' in at least 30% of the games he is available (like tonight),
the clause will not be triggered...

More confirmation that Atleti's strategy this season is to play him less than 45' each game in order to avoid paying the 40m:

@ManagingBarca
����| Atletico Madrid do not want to pay ?40M to FC Barcelona for Antoine Griezmann.
@JaviGomara
[��]

 

[khaled_a_d]

No man.
It concerns the whole 2-yr loan period, and not only last season.
Read Toni's explanation



More confirmation that Atleti's strategy this season is to play him less than 45' each game in order to avoid paying the 40m:

@ManagingBarca
����| Atletico Madrid do not want to pay ?40M to FC Barcelona for Antoine Griezmann.
@JaviGomara
[��]

Again, already confirmed by almost every reliable source including Morretti who was first to reveal details of the loan when it happened.
It is one year loan, if play 50% of available minutes it is obligation to buy.
They can however loan him again and make the purchase in 2023 to fit their cap. But the obligation stands,just delayed.
They tried to get rid of him now, tried to convince us to let them off the hook, and now trying to even sell him.
It was just a great move by Alemany and they bite it.

Edit: the full tweet is actually "Atletico Madrid do not want to pay Barcelona's €40m clause for Griezmann. They want to lower the price."

 

[serghei]

Idiots should play Griezmann. Worth 40m for them.

 

[Birdy]

Again, already confirmed by almost every reliable source including Morretti who was first to reveal details of the loan when it happened.
It is one year loan, if play 50% of available minutes it is obligation to buy.
They can however loan him again and make the purchase in 2023 to fit their cap. But the obligation stands,just delayed.

Again, it's wrong...
What is bolded is incorrect.

The initial agreement was made in August 2021 for a 2-yr loan period (was still possible back then to loan for 2 years, it's not now according to the new UEFA rules), and every clause concerns the whole period of the two-year loan, not just the first year.

Look here:
"If Griezmann plays at least 45 minutes in 50% of the matches he is available for across the two years of his loan, then Los Rojiblancos would be due the significant outlay contractually"

If you read also carefully the tweet from Juan Marti I quoted above, it quantifies how many number of games (>45') he needs to play this season (2022/23) to trigger the clause.
Which, in simple words, means the clause is not triggered yet, and the option is still NOT mandatory.

What many people confuse is the above clause (stipulating how and when the option to buy for 40m becomes mandatory)
and ANOTHER clause that said if Atleti wants to buy him for 40m in 2022 (now) they can break the 2-yr loan, and do it.
But that's optional on them, and obviously they don't want to.
His initial 2-yr loan, then, continues until next summer and the clause is still to be triggered.

 

[Birdy]

Edit: the full tweet is actually "Atletico Madrid do not want to pay Barcelona's €40m clause for Griezmann. They want to lower the price."

Plus,
This doesn't make any sense if the clause has already become mandatory as you claim.
Then, they couldn't lower the price in any way whatsoever, as it would have been contractually binding.

But, IF * As is the case * they actually feature him only for less than 45' each time the whole season, the clause is not triggered,
and they can re-negotiate the option to buy, and the amount.
And they would have a lot of leverage in such negotiation

 

[Birdy]

Again, already confirmed by almost every reliable source including Morretti who was first to reveal details of the loan when it happened.
It is one year loan, if play 50% of available minutes it is obligation to buy.
They can however loan him again and make the purchase in 2023 to fit their cap. But the obligation stands,just delayed.

Here is what Moretto said back in August 2021
barcaTimes
��[
@MatteMoretto
��] | | Antoine Griezmann’s loan to Atl?tico Madrid is for TWO years and when the second one ends, the purchase option will be there, which is NOT mandatory but depends on the games played by the striker in that period of time.

PS:
Whatever article explaining the deal you can find, even back 1 year ago (August 2021), they all cite the same thing:
1) "Atletico will now have to purchase Griezmann for a fee €40m at the end of the loan, provided he plays 50% of the matches he was available for over the two seasons"
2) "In 12 months’ time, in the summer of 2023 Atl?tico will be obliged to buy him from Barcelona - on conditions that a set of requirements are met, such as playing at least 50% of the team’s matches"
3) "the obligation to buy clause will be triggered depending upon the number of games Antoine Griezmann plays during the 2-year loan spell"
4) "The only condition that needs to be fulfilled is that he must play 50% of the games in the ongoing as well as in the 2022-23 football season"

 

[khaled_a_d]

Here is what Moretto said back in August 2021
barcaTimes
��[
@MatteMoretto
��] | | Antoine Griezmann?s loan to Atl?tico Madrid is for TWO years and when the second one ends, the purchase option will be there, which is NOT mandatory but depends on the games played by the striker in that period of time.

PS:
Whatever article explaining the deal you can find, even back 1 year ago (August 2021), they all cite the same thing:
1) "Atletico will now have to purchase Griezmann for a fee ?40m at the end of the loan, provided he plays 50% of the matches he was available for over the two seasons"
2) "In 12 months? time, in the summer of 2023 Atl?tico will be obliged to buy him from Barcelona - on conditions that a set of requirements are met, such as playing at least 50% of the team?s matches"
3) "the obligation to buy clause will be triggered depending upon the number of games Antoine Griezmann plays during the 2-year loan spell"
4) "The only condition that needs to be fulfilled is that he must play 50% of the games in the ongoing as well as in the 2022-23 football season"

Moretto, Romero and many others cleared it in June this year. I had same confusion too and it was cleared.
The links you provided cite Sport, older articles or people who interpreted it their own.


The way announcement worded it was very confusing, and many thought it was done the way you described.
After the year, and after it was done it was already confirmed it isn't this way. Atletico have no choice to not buy him, not anymore.

And Atletico trying to lower price makes perfect sense mate.
We already offered that to sell him now, because we want money now.

OTOH , Atletico can try that now and find a taker for him, rather than screwing next summer for them.

And a quick reminder that same Atletico bullshit happened with Morata, with Atletico trying to claim there was no obligation to buy and it ended up they were liars

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Khaled I truly hope you are right and they are forced to buy Griezmann for 40million. Great business for us. Get rid of his massive salary and earn 40mil. We robbed them.

 

[KingLeo10]

If RM had loaned them a player, they would end the loan deal early with twice the buyout paid to RM.

Cuckletico for a reason.

 

[serghei]

Rayo will do good this season. Nice goal vs Espanyol. Proper hard working team, with a bite in attack.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Why LaLiga referees are so against using VAR? Valladolid robbed penalty vs Sevilla.

Incompetence in this league is just on a different level.

 

[Horatio]

siiuuuu valladolid. Now I can make fun of a Colombian buddy who claims he's an expert at sportsbetting but I already exposed him. Also told him today NOT to bet on Sevilla win.


edit: siuuuu biggest blunder you'll see. 1-1 now.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Can't say there's no drama in LaLiga lol


Amazing games today.. A lot of reds, and interesting matches. Amazing stuff.