Leo_Messi
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I use this as a reference for Messi stats: http://messivsronaldo.net/all-time-stats/
It matches up statistically with whoscored, transfermarkt etc
The Wiki all time list must include goals from elsewhere, not sure where the extra 27 goals for Messi came from, but still to be that close to Penaldo with much less games is something.
The extra goals for both of them come from what I wrote about. In C. Ronaldo's case his official goals scored for Portugal's U-teams and in Messi's case similarly with Argentina's U-teams AND his official goals for Barça C and B. C. Ronaldo did no manage to score any goals for Sporting's B team.
They only use the official club career goals for the senior teams (where Messi is leading with 2 goals as written earlier) and the official goals for the senior national teams (respectively Portugal and Argentina). Since C. Ronaldo has scored 20 goals more for Portugal (88 vs 68) but 2 less club career goals (601 vs 603), the goal difference using the sources that you posted will be 18.
However if you include all official goals, the difference will be 9 goals. (707 vs 698 goals).