Lionel Messi - v7

Tackle

Senior Member
he would be the best player in both sides. and by a margin.

Best player on individual talent? Yes.

But being a well rounded footballer that fits into a functioning system requires a lot more than just flashes of genius on the ball. Replace current Messi for KDB on City or Lewa on Bayern and they would become worse teams by some distance.
 

giorgoXXI

Member
Messi leaves and we will be lucky to even play Europa for the next few years.

Messi has been the reason we've been winning or challenging for titles since Neymar left.

He didn't do anything today, but anyone would be demoralised looking at the circus going on at the back.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
How. City team requires forwards to close down channels and press all game. He's out from the start, since he can't do a key task. Same for Bayern.

because he has the biggest football brain around and is a collective player. he would get into combinations with players that make runs. he would also have midfielders that would give him freedom to just think about attack. here he has to drop deep in order to create.
 

Flavius

Member
Messi leaves and we will be lucky to even play Europa for the next few years.

Messi has been the reason we've been winning or challenging for titles since Neymar left.

He didn't do anything today, but anyone would be demoralised looking at the circus going on at the back.

Well, we better play Europa League than getting humiliations every year. That's smaller chances to get humiliations like this.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Messi doesn't deserve to end his bar?a career like this and he won't, he might leave for free after next season though if the club doesn't get its act together in the meantime.

That's totally fine by me. I don't think it is appropriate for us to sell him, actually.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Messi leaves and we will be lucky to even play Europa for the next few years.

Messi has been the reason we've been winning or challenging for titles since Neymar left.

He didn't do anything today, but anyone would be demoralised looking at the circus going on at the back.

Barca would still be top 4 without a doubt.

The way Barca play is slow one dimensional football for Messi and lesser extent Suarez to come up with indiviudal moments.

Messi plays a part in that being the approach.
 

malvolio

Senior Member
Best player on individual talent? Yes.

But being a well rounded footballer that fits into a functioning system requires a lot more than just flashes of genius on the ball. Replace current Messi for KDB on City or Lewa on Bayern and they would become worse teams by some distance.

does he have a functioning system around him at barca?

fucking kdb and lewandowski. we found our goats lads :lol:
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
does he have a functioning system around him at barca?

No and he plays a part in that also.

Messi lack of pressing tracking back make a balanced 433 almost impossible. Made worse by other old players.

Leads to shitty slow football which suits Messi waiting for individual moments.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Messi leaves and we will be lucky to even play Europa for the next few years.

Messi has been the reason we've been winning or challenging for titles since Neymar left.

He didn't do anything today, but anyone would be demoralised looking at the circus going on at the back.

Yes to your first sentence/paragraph. However, do you expect him to be here forever? Sooner rather than later we need to live without him and adapt. That is the ONLY way for us to get better eventually.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Barca would still be top 4 without a doubt.

The way Barca play is slow one dimensional football for Messi and lesser extent Suarez to come up with indiviudal moments.

Messi plays a part in that being the approach.

Yea, it's as if people didn't see us smashing Betis 6-2 playing one of our best games of the season with Griezman and Carles Perez ffs. Yea, we'd totally struggle to beat middle placed La Liga teams if not for Messi and Suarez. Yep... :lol:
 

jamrock

Senior Member
Messi will have to play as a CF next season, that's the only way we can accommodate his lack of tracking back.

Play coutinho--messi--dembele(if he can stay fit)

Can't be any worst than what we have now.
 

te amo barca

Blaugrana al vent
does he have a functioning system around him at barca?

It?s not functional but the system plays for him. Everyone tries to please him by passing it to him in every situation. It?s natural that 80-90% of our goals will come directly from his participation. There is no ?attacking? gameplan without Messi slowing down the play and having touches in every attack.
 

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