Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

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serghei

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And after Lucho benched Messi and Neymar, the news broke that unless he wins the next 2-3 matches, he is sacked.

Was it against Sociedad in the next round which could have been his last match?

Nobody could have benched our superstars.

No wonder that we had to hire EVs, Setiens and similar.
Coaches who won't fight with our amigos but play them and hope for the best.

A top manager doesn't take the job in the first place in that case. Only weaker managers will accept such a serious compromise. A top manager has multiple career options on the table and is never in a position to be unemployed due to a lack of offers from top clubs.

Thing is we positioned ourselves in a way that we had to settle for poorer managers who had no better career option than just let the amigos do their thing and try to work around that. The older and slower the amigos get, the more problems the manager will face.
 
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malvolio

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A top manager doesn't take the job in the first place in that case. Only weaker managers will accept such a serious compromise. A top manager has multiple career options on the table and is never in a position to be unemployed due to a lack of offers from top clubs.

Thing is we positioned ourselves in a way that we had to settle for poorer managers who had no better career option than just let the amigos do their thing and try to work around that. The older and slower the amigos get, the more problems the manager will face.

again with the amigos bullshit, while casually omitting the fact that barca has hired the same type of managers for the last 30 years. club legend, spanish speaker or dutch. or a combination of those characteristics.

but i guess it suits the agenda to blame the amigos for everything that happened in this club's history.
 

behindbrowneyes

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Have not watched any of the games so far but seen some highlights of the games. Reading in here looks like he had another slow start. He had that last year too and was often unlucky not to score. He has hit the woodwork in the last 2 games and once he gets his first goal he'll start scoring again on a regular basis.

Him reacting to Poch like that is not really surprising. He was always like that when things didn't go his way. Will take him 1 or 2 days and everything will be normal again, maybe him even realising that he was overreacting. After all he has a winner mentality and being taken off while the team is still fighting for a win makes it hard to watch for him on the bench.

The difference between current PSG and Barca is that PSG has options to him on the bench. Will take some time for him to learn that the hard way, but in the end he'll benefit from it.

Having the PSG-squad at your hands looks like a dream job on paper. Fitting them into one eleven and get the best out of them will be one hell of a job for Pochettino. It will take time and if he makes things work and players click PSG can go far, but I doubt they'll win a CL with these set of players.
 

Sorin

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Nothing would make me happier than to see PSG fail massively while Messi struggles.

I realize that him leaving us was not his fault but he could have chosen another team instead of that utterly unlikable club, and for that I wish him nothing but failures. :)
 

i_bleed_blaugrana

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Nothing would make me happier than to see PSG fail massively while Messi struggles.

I realize that him leaving us was not his fault but he could have chosen another team instead of that utterly unlikable club, and for that I wish him nothing but failures. :)

Pretty much one of 3 clubs who could have handled the finances of the transfer in such a short window. I hate PSG too but if you want to win like he does, he did not have much of another option considering the fact City already plopped a hundo for Grealish. If you absolutely have to leave, going with a team who made it to the CL final a year prior and has quite a few players you have a good relationship with makes a lot of sense. I do not want PSG to win but I want Messi to at least shine like he did with us and if that is bright enough to carry them over the line, I will bitterly accept it.

I personally dont fully get not supporting Messi as a player/person considering everything he has done and will continue to give us in the future but that is your decision to make.

In general, a team adapting to a player like Messi v Ronaldo is always going to be longer with someone like Messi and from the little I have watched, it is a lot of people standing around waiting for Messi to do something while only Neymar has any idea on how to link with him and what Messi is looking for (surprise, surprise). More than anything, it proves what happens when you try to slap together a superstar 11 in a window and then expect it to magically click. I am pretty concerned by how it looks so far and I am really questioning if Poch can handle all of this.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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He needs to go back to a more traditional RW role for the good of the team. There's really no excuse for him to be a walking #10 anymore. At Barca, you could argue that maybe he had to play like that because he had too much of the offensive burden and he had to conserve energy to be at his best in every match. At PSG, he can rest in a lot of the domestic games and he has two world class attackers alongside him. Maybe his stats would suffer, but he and the team should perform much better with him back at RW. He also has Hakimi to link up with on that side as well.

Would be interesting to see him as a RW again but he lost a lot of pace.
 

xxxxxx

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Regardless if Messi wasn't at his best or whatnot, you don't take him off at 1-1 with 15 minutes to go. Players like Messi can turn it on at any time, so taking him off for a bench player is a sackable offense.
 

BBZ8800

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Regardless if Messi wasn't at his best or whatnot, you don't take him off at 1-1 with 15 minutes to go. Players like Messi can turn it on at any time, so taking him off for a bench player is a sackable offense.

Lol

This works only in a delusional bubble inside of internet fanpages.

No player is bigger than the club or a team.
Except Messi when he played for FcMessi1899

A lot of theories and gossips about the last 10 years might be clearer soon.

If that part about huge drop in our worth after Messi's leaving is true, then we were his prisoners.
We had to do whatever he wanted for years = wages, tactics, dropping deep, walking, not being subbed ever, coaches, South American teammates etc, because he was bringing tons of money (and trophies until a few years ago).
 
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