Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

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eaman

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What European team looked great at Euros?

Argentina beat Brazil and have a solid side much more so than in the past.

There is not much between Argentina and any of the top teams bar maybe France if they got sorted.

Argentinas defence won it against Brazil. They were kinda poor on the ball in that final like most of the tournament. Most European teams keep the ball better but then again the pitches didn't help. Brazil were good on the ball though. Anyway winning the world cup is going to be very hard and champions league hard. Doing well in the premier league alot easier. And really doing it year in year out is more impressive. Even winning a world cup won't shut up half the world saying he's never done it in the premier league. Unless he goes to the mls and does an ibrahimovic on the off season and plays a few months in the league
 

JamDav1982

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Back then Pep already said how Messi should run less in order to save his energy to attack. So with Pep, there is no problem with Messi's pressing. 34 or not, he is still the best in the world.

Just because they signed Grealish before knew Messi's departure so Pep had to give up on Messi.

Dont agree and Messi is 34 and presses less anyway.

Pep and City would not give up on Messi for Grealish if really wanted to make an effort for him.
 

JamDav1982

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Argentinas defence won it against Brazil. They were kinda poor on the ball in that final like most of the tournament. Most European teams keep the ball better but then again the pitches didn't help. Brazil were good on the ball though. Anyway winning the world cup is going to be very hard and champions league hard. Doing well in the premier league alot easier. And really doing it year in year out is more impressive. Even winning a world cup won't shut up half the world saying he's never done it in the premier league. Unless he goes to the mls and does an ibrahimovic on the off season and plays a few months in the league

Argentinas defence helped win it.

They also scored and had other chances.

Obviously world cup is hard for any team but Argentina are stronger than have been in years in terms of squad and particularly if Messi is firing have a chance.
 

eaman

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Argentinas defence helped win it.

They also scored and had other chances.

Obviously world cup is hard for any team but Argentina are stronger than have been in years in terms of squad and particularly if Messi is firing have a chance.

Ya if Messi is scoring freekicks because they are not creating much for him. You know he will create but with some of those forwards they are probably not scoring many of those. Maybe a top striker will emerge or aguero will turn back the years
 

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That guy in right bottom corner is Q$G's best player.
 

malvolio

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Ya if Messi is scoring freekicks because they are not creating much for him. You know he will create but with some of those forwards they are probably not scoring many of those. Maybe a top striker will emerge or aguero will turn back the years

more chances that lautaro steps up than aguero being fit for the WC.
 

JamDav1982

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Ya if Messi is scoring freekicks because they are not creating much for him. You know he will create but with some of those forwards they are probably not scoring many of those. Maybe a top striker will emerge or aguero will turn back the years

Messi just got his best goals/assists in a tournament and he plays well off Lautaro.

Aguero is done and doesnt add the legs they needed around Messi even when fit.
 

vegitot

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Dont agree and Messi is 34 and presses less anyway.

Pep and City would not give up on Messi for Grealish if really wanted to make an effort for him.

It is not like Messi pressed much back then.

If both Messi and Grealish were available at the samd time, Pep and City would go for Messi first.
 

JamDav1982

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french league is pretty physical from what i've seen. surely more physical than spain. i would wager on par with premier league. and the physicality myth was debunked time and again by the likes of aguero and silva being very successful there.

yes it is. it's just idiots speculating. another meme.

No it is not speculating to say 'Pep needs Messi for CL' to this point and completely different from 'Cold Winter Night in Stoke' which was used to take piss out of very few folk who claimed it more than anything.

EPL is far more physically tough league to play in than France it is not even remotely close. The games are better quality, quicker and much more competitive to get a win. The French league matches it for cloggers smashing players. That is about it.

Silva etc are irrelevant unless claiming Messi would fail due to league being to physical which is not true now and never has been.
 

eaman

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Messi just got his best goals/assists in a tournament and he plays well off Lautaro.

Aguero is done and doesnt add the legs they needed around Messi even when fit.

Ya he'll always create plenty of chances for Argentina but the other way around its mostly freekicks and pens like it was in the tournament. His open play goal was created by a world class striker. I don't see this latauro chemistry you talk about. They will need alot better than latauro to win. Angel correa would be played by most top managers. He likes latauros workrate which is very good but it is part of their problem on the ball
 

vegitot

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Ya he'll always create plenty of chances for Argentina but the other way around its mostly freekicks and pens like it was in the tournament. His open play goal was created by a world class striker. I don't see this latauro chemistry you talk about. They will need alot better than latauro to win. Angel correa would be played by most top managers. He likes latauros workfare which us very good but it is part of their downfall on the ball

There will be no top class striker show up for Argentina next year. Aguero is finished. Lautaro at least works hard on the field and manages to score 3 goals in Copa.
 

JamDav1982

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Ya he'll always create plenty of chances for Argentina but the other way around its mostly freekicks and pens like it was in the tournament. His open play goal was created by a world class striker. I don't see this latauro chemistry you talk about. They will need alot better than latauro to win. Angel correa would be played by most top managers. He likes latauros workrate which is very good but it is part of their problem on the ball

No manager would be playing Correa ahead of Lautaro who Messi plays well off and enjoys playing with him as a 9.

Argentina have strongest and most complete squad they have had in years. Whether they win it or not.
 

eaman

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No manager would be playing Correa ahead of Lautaro who Messi plays well off and enjoys playing with him as a 9.

Argentina have strongest and most complete squad they have had in years. Whether they win it or not.

I didn't really mean correa in place of Lautaro. Just pointing out how the manager is looking at more of a hardworking team than a quality team. They were terrible on the ball in alot of those copa matches.
 

JamDav1982

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I didn't really mean correa in place of Lautaro. Just pointing out how the manager is looking at more of a hardworking team than a quality team. They were terrible on the ball in alot of those copa matches.

They were not terrible on ball and De Paul in midfield was their best player after Messi and best player in final.

The coach is picking the best players not just the hard workers.

The best Argentina teams in WCs have always first and foremost been defensively sound and hope attacking players can take their chances.
 
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