Lliga | Round 21: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona 2-0

Devils

Senior Member
Barcelona doesn't function without a #9 btw.

This game was like watching the Pedro-Alexis-Messi attack, but multiple times worse.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
You basically need a new board, new coach and clean house properly. Its difficult and will take years. Lack of long term vision from the board is killing us currently.

I am not a fan of the current board but I don’t know what vision Font has in the sporting realm so I question if a new board will make any significant difference.

We definitely need new players (to replace the old guards). I don’t want to sound ungrateful but we will sure hit a rock bottom when Messi, Suarez, Pique, Busquets etc. are out but we should start getting better from there, with new players and a cultural change, one that focuses on work rate, hard work and making tireless runs than some sort of eye-trickery and nice moves.

I hope by then we will get Nagelsmann for a complete rebuild.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
I think Setien has a very ungrateful situation. He will be fired for Valverde's mistakes. Valverde for years treated the players like spoiled babies and now it's showing. Their lack of professionalism is killing this team.

Setien has been dealt a shitty hand no question but the same could in some ways be said for EV when he took over.. this shit mentality started in Lucho's final season losing 4-0 to PSG (we cameback that time) and then 3-0 vs Juve over 2 legs with no reply. Valverde was an awful manager so thats not me defending him but the main issues we see now were showing even before he took over

i don't think it matters who we make manager at this point, they are destined to fail with the current group of players. thats why the world class manager the fans call for wouldn't go near this current Barca

i hate to say it but it would of made more sense to write off this season, keep EV til summer then give the job to Setien so he has pre-season to get his vision across and improve the fitness. trying to do this halfway through a season is ridiculous
 

Masetro10

Member
I love Leo as much as the rest of Barca fans but now you see the negatives of him in your team more than ever. He might as well play 9 or 10 because on the wing he causes only issues with the team balance wise. No defense work rate ever. I understand how great he is offensively, but tough games really bring the worst out of Barcelona and not the best. Fati should be nowhere near starting for a team of Barca's standard even if he shows great promise. Roberto is absolute trash. Griezmann has been totally screwed over by the system playing anywhere except his actual position. I think now people are starting to realize that the coach isn't really the issue as much as they thought it was. The team is literally spent. Rant over
 

Gari

Active member
3 defenders Roberto, Piquet and Umtiti. Already not at ease. Chaos in attack and midfield. We have what we have.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
How can we make Bartomeu to realize this? He will try to sign Xavi again and hope everything is fine again..

Exactly, it doesn’t matter who is in charge (Valverde did make things worse by aiding and abetting the senior players and accommodating the toxic culture created by them), Xavi or not, it is not going to make any significant difference with this same group of players.

Our hope lies in when they are all out of here. Long and painful rebuild for sure but we will only start getting better from there.
 

BADGERBHOY

Senior Member
But without a depth squad?

A clearout has been needed for years. Valverdes biggest failing was not phasing them out.

We can get our pick from any of them in the world.
Barcelona is a dream job for most people.
Nagelsmann, Ten Haag. Anybody but the poor choices we're making now
 

Centauri B

New member
A clearout has been needed for years. Valverdes biggest failing was not phasing them out.

We can get our pick from any of them in the world.
Barcelona is a dream job for most people.
Nagelsmann, Ten Haag. Anybody but the poor choices we're making now

Nagelsmann or Ten Haag? What is it exactly that makes them "top managers"?
 

Gari

Active member
Quique Setién: "There are some things that the players still do not interpret well or we may not explain them well. Nobody likes what we've seen today. We have a lot of things to do. Positionally there are things to correct because we have given many meaningless passes." "We don't like it to have the ball just for the sake of having it. We need to do something with it."
 

FCMessi

Senior Member
Griezmann center, Messi right and Fati left.

This game might have been different.

EV has tried Fati right and Griezmann left and it did not work back then.
 

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