Luis Enrique

dakt

Active member
I see great experiment against City...something like Bravo as a midfielder, or some other kind of sorcery.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Luis Enrique has a better team than Tata and no injuries yet looks a lot worse. I wish Tata had more support as he actually had tactical ideas before giving up when people gave him crap for sometimes playing on the counter. IMO, Tata was the best of the post Pep coaches. Lucho is a joke. We need a manager who doesn't tinker every match without knowing what he's doing. Lucho thinks he's pep with his experiments but he has no concept of tactics. Another season of Messi saving the team.

If I remember there was a lot of rumors about Tata losing the dressing room.that is a kiss of death of any coach .he was also always a candidate for Argentina job after Sabella and it seems it was more interesting job for him
Also in the last 2 years post Pep the team always start good and then after winter break it goes down ,at same times in last 2 years we looked better and then it went down from there ,Lucho season isn't awful at this point .we ended 1st in CL group and still in race for Liga
He has the right for his experiments ,I don't like him and I am not optimistic but he can very well turn things around midway throw the season b4 saying that he is worse than Tata
 
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El_e8

Guest
By this time last year we had dropped 5 points without having Messi.

Now we have fully fit attack and have dropped 10 points.

Good luck winning La Liga.
 

serghei

Senior Member
The problem for Lucho is that RM is not the same as last year in the league. I see them dropping very few points this season, and if we are going to continue drawing away to mediocre teams like Getafe, or losing at home to the likes of Celta Vigo, then we can kiss the league goodbye as early as february. We still have to play Atletico, keep that in mind.
 

Ritchie

New member
martino is 10 times the coach, lucho will ever be.
but u greedy kids here, hated tata for no reason

They're both crap. Tata couldn't change a game or make a decent sub. Lucho has no pedigree barring being ex-Barca and hoping he'd be some kind of Pep reincarnate.

Barca need a world class manager. The couple of years after Pep left we could win most games without a coach because of the quality of the side and winning experience but fell short in the big games when we did need top coaching. Now that team is done (Valdes, Puyol, Abidal, Villa gone, Alves done, Pique and Pedro not the same, Xavi and Iniesta ageing.) and due to inept transfers we haven't replaced them well enough and have a crap defence and still Busuets, Xavi, Iniesta midfield. Messi can't do it all.
 

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Leo_Messi

New member
Lucho is a club legend and on some fronts that kind of manager that the team needed but tactically speaking (in my view the most important element of a manager) he seems very limited. I am afraid that this will have a big say in the CL unless our stars will bail him out.

I am not really a big fan of our current playing style either. Sometimes I find it hard to recognize. The midfield, which was once our main strength, is now a former shadow of itself.

Anyway I will give him until late February to prove me wrong. I am not singling him out (the leadership is more to blame for the current ills of the club) but I nevertheless expected more from him.

On the other hand you can't do much with a squad that has topped while at the same time failing to address the real problems of the squad properly!
 
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Icarium

Lifestealer
Always blame the coach. Yeah that will solve our problems right? I can't think of a single coach who could win a trophy with our current midfield. It is below average. What is the point of having a great attack when you can't even create enough chances for them. Even pep would have performed badly with this team. We need good midfielders or some magic which makes busi and iniesta reach their original form and xavi 5 years younger.

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serghei

Senior Member
Always blame the coach. Yeah that will solve our problems right? I can't think of a single coach who could win a trophy with our current midfield. It is below average.

He was in charge with the transfers and had a whole summer to sign the right players. Every problems we have in the squad are his and the board's fault. Everyone knew Lucho will coach Barcelona even while Tata Martino was still here. If he fails, he fails because he's stubborn, tactically inept, and overall a bad manager. Failing at Roma and semi-succeeding at Celta is not exactly a great calling card, is it? Sometimes, when you fail, you fail hanging on your own ideas. That shall be the case if we don't manage to win anything this year, or at least come close to winning something (I would be pretty content with that this season).
 
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Icarium

Lifestealer
He was in charge with the transfers and had a whole summer to sign the right players. Every problems we have in the squad are his and the board's fault. Everyone knew Lucho will coach Barcelona even while Tata Martino was still here. If he fails, he fails because he's stubborn, tactically inept, and overall a bad manager. Failing at Roma and semi-succeeding at Celta is not exactly a great calling card, is it? Sometimes, when you fail, you fail hanging on your own ideas. That shall be the case if we don't manage to win anything this year, or at least come close to winning something (I would be pretty content with that this season).


If we did not buy Luis suarez we could have had enough funds to buy a good midfielder and even a right back. Suarez is board signing and not luch signing. Rakitic is the only midfielder we could afford, both board and lucho wanted koke but they could not afford. We lost kroos long back again because of incompetence from board. Lucho wanted cuadrado with 3-4-3 in his mind. He had a plan and now he can't implement it properly and he can't play the old system too because he has 3 forwards who perform best in middle and below average midfield. Board should take the blame more than lucho, players and lucho share equal blame. Lucho is not a world class coach but at least he is trying to change our dead system. Transition always takes some time. He might lay a foundation and leave, him leaving is almost fixed. If not next season they definitely in next season. Another scapegoat just like Tata.
 

Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
If we did not buy Luis suarez we could have had enough funds to buy a good midfielder and even a right back. Suarez is board signing and not luch signing. Rakitic is the only midfielder we could afford, both board and lucho wanted koke but they could not afford. We lost kroos long back again because of incompetence from board. Lucho wanted cuadrado with 3-4-3 in his mind. He had a plan and now he can't implement it properly and he can't play the old system too because he has 3 forwards who perform best in middle and below average midfield. Board should take the blame more than lucho, players and lucho share equal blame. Lucho is not a world class coach but at least he is trying to change our dead system. Transition always takes some time. He might lay a foundation and leave, him leaving is almost fixed. If not next season they definitely in next season. Another scapegoat just like Tata.

Pedro can perform the 3-4-3 role better than Cuadrado. We could have gotten both Kroos and Rakitic we had enough money and a midfield of Iniesta, Xavi, Rakitic, Busi, Rafinha and Masch maybe not WC (debatable) but is at least good enough to get some passing rhythm and start attacks. Look at freaking Rayo, you think their mids are WC? Hell no but they can start attacks in the midfield and play beautiful football why the hell can't fucking Lucho do it with infinitely better players. Its Lucho's job to find a system and implement it to fit the players thats what he is fucking paid to do not make dumbass pressers. If the team doesn't play well and every single player looks confused about what to do, it means the coach is a damn retard that doesn't know what the hell he should do and not the players that are bad.
 
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Icarium

Lifestealer
Pedro can perform the 3-4-3 role better than Cuadrado. We could have gotten both Kroos and Rakitic we had enough money and a midfield of Iniesta, Xavi, Rakitic, Busi, Rafinha and Masch maybe not WC (debatable) but is at least good enough to get some passing rhythm. Look at freaking Rayo, you think their mids are WC? Hell no but they can start attacks in the midfield and play beautiful football why the hell can't fucking Lucho do it with infinitely better players.




We could have but the board lost Kroos to Real Madrid before the transfer window began. Not lucho fault. He wanted Rakitic and Koke but only one transfer happened. His emphasis on forwards making it hard to have a good passing rhythm. It could and should be achieved though in mean time. Playing midfielders out wide was his initial idea which clearly failed. The main problem is none of our midfielders can make those short quick passes anymore making it hard to have the famous tiki taka. Now all you see will be hopeless long balls forward. Even in Real Madrid match lucho was shouting the team to play compact and all but the players did not listen and they made it easy for real to dominate. Lucho ideas are not going to players head properly. He needs to earn some respect from players. A good display against man shitty will help. A good performance could be the tonic for players, lucho and even fans. Momentum and confidence are very underrated in football. It is not just NBA that those two have a meaning, even in football they have huge impact. Currently we lack both of them. First we need to pick up the lost confidence and motivation. Players Iniesta and Busi need it desperately. Alves is a lost cause. Pique is playing very good recently imo. Pedro improved a lot.
 
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El_e8

Guest
We spent 160mil and you are still talking about Iniesta, Xavi.
No wonder this team shows no progress going forward. Instead of accepting they are past it you find ways to protect them.
 

Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
We could have but the board lost Kroos to Real Madrid before the transfer window began. Not lucho fault. He wanted Rakitic and Koke but only one transfer happened. His emphasis on forwards making it hard to have a good passing rhythm. It could and should be achieved though in mean time. Playing midfielders out wide was his initial idea which clearly failed. The main problem is none of our midfielders can make those short quick passes anymore making it hard to have the famous tiki taka. Now all you see will be hopeless long balls forward. Even in Real Madrid match lucho was shouting the team to play compact and all but the players did not listen and they made it easy for real to dominate. Lucho ideas are not going to players head properly. He needs to earn some respect from players. A good display against man shitty will help. A good performance could be the tonic for players, lucho and even fans. Momentum and confidence are very underrated in football. It is not just NBA that those two have a meaning, even in football they have huge impact. Currently we lack both of them. First we need to pick up the lost confidence and motivation. Players Iniesta and Busi need it desperately. Alves is a lost cause. Pique is playing very good recently imo. Pedro improved a lot.

Hey we didn't play wide mids from the start did we? Lucho started the wide midfield setup and then he wants to change it mid game in a fucking Classico? No wonder they didn't change you don't change the whole game plan you practice throughout the season to one you didn't even play in pre-season. Matheiu stating that he was surprised that Lucho picked him to start LB in the Classico is a disgrace on its own disregarding Lucho's shitty dumbass reply. You say Lucho's idea's not going to the player's head, well maybe they would if he had an actual clue about his own ideas, he is single handedly destroying set designated best roles of the players. Rakitic, Xavi, Iniesta, etc play good in the middle of the park close to each other and can start attacks? Well lets play them on opposite ends of the pitch and cover for the fullbacks. Messi likes to play with other players around him to combine with him? Lets just take away his pals in the middle and make him drop to Busi's position to receive service from the midfield or an occasional long ball from the CBs. Its no wonder that the only time we looked good was when Xavi disregarded the retarded wide midfielders tactics and came to the middle of the pitch to control the game. Instead of fixing problems Lucho looks hell bent on making new ones. And worst of all he seems to think he is the 2nd coming of Pep and above all reproach.
 

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