Luis Enrique

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
No I am just highlighting that it is something that Pep did regularly (so the players should have been able to adapt to it no trouble) and was never criticised for it except for on one occasion when we lost and had Pique not given the ball away tonight we would have won the game and no one would be mentioning the sub.

Again, everyone that is mentionning the sub would be mentionning it even if we had won, it was plain stupid to give up on attacking with such a fragile lead, and sub nothing less than the best player on the field, and winning would have been a new case of Lucho getting away with a stupid tactical choice just like against Celta.
 
You're missing the point of how taking off one the most dangerous attackers on the night affected the group when everyone was thinking that the plan was to defend the lead by scoring. How seasoned veterans the players are is completely irrelevant, a bad plan like that throws anyone off regardless of experience.

Think about it. Everyone knew that if they conceded a goal and drew the game it would be a small disaster, and a cushion of two goals would be infintely better than trying to contain an ever bolder Sevilla side. Changing the formation and gameplan suddenly like that just served to throw them off. Even worse, it removed some of their hope that they could still win if they did concede that 2-2 equalizer, as scoring that winning third goal would be much more difficult without Neymar. And what do you know, that's exactly what happened.

Firstly Neymar was not really in the game second as it got physical and he did what he usually does when the game get's intense and physical he went missing, also when you are defending a lead Neymar does not track back and defend to help out his full back like he should and like Messi does on the opposite flank. Secondly the goal had absolutely nothing to do with the sub it was due to a very poor pass by Pique. And thirdly had Barca pushed on for the third goal and been caught in the break (which is very possible with a team like Sevilla) then people would be critical of Enrique for going to gun-ho and not settling for 2-1.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Firstly Neymar was not really in the game second as it got physical and he did what he usually does when the game get's intense and physical he went missing, also when you are defending a lead Neymar does not track back and defend to help out his full back like he should and like Messi does on the opposite flank. Secondly the goal had absolutely nothing to do with the sub it was due to a very poor pass by Pique. And thirdly had Barca pushed on for the third goal and been caught in the break (which is very possible with a team like Sevilla) then people would be critical of Enrique for going to gun-ho and not settling for 2-1.

The game was no more physical in the second half than it was in the first.

In no way was Neymar shying away from the physical aspect of that game and Coke was quite visibly getting frustrated that Neymar was standing up the to his physical approach and getting better him.

Anyway Neymar doesnt shy away from a physical battle. Just look how he plays against Atletico, possibly the most intense team in the world.

If for some reason you want to have some sly digs at Neymar in a game where he was the teams best player at least try to make it somewhat accurate.
 

vlad

New member
stupid mistakes, similar against sociedad, where he benched key players, well, he is inexperienced and sometimes this the price you have to pay when you have coach like that, overall he is doing good job for now
 

evilhita666

Barçapocalypse NOW!
stupid mistakes, similar against sociedad, where he benched key players, well, he is inexperienced and sometimes this the price you have to pay when you have coach like that, overall he is doing good job for now

I think he is getting good results, which in my opinion, doesn't equate to doing a good job...
 

EdmondDantes

New member
Awful management and poor coaching, in key moments he's nowhere to be seen Enrique. We've dropped many a point because of his nonsense.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Awful management and poor coaching, in key moments he's nowhere to be seen Enrique. We've dropped many a point because of his nonsense.

I think he was at fault today but the team have also won a lot of games through Enriques choices this season.

What do people really expect? That Barca win every game?
 

mssarm

Member
I think he is getting good results, which in my opinion, doesn't equate to doing a good job...
If good results are not indicator then what is? No seriously, please explain yourself. I still don't see how Neymar was the best player in the game and how the substitution made Pique less focused and lose the ball. But I really want LE to be sacked by the end of the season or before the next game. I just want to see how many new coaches per season it will take for some fans to realize that game console team management and real life team management are completely different things.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I think he was at fault today but the team have also won a lot of games through Enriques choices this season.

He was at fault for pretty much every point we lost this season. Most of them went down to him not getting the team focused on the game, fucking up the subs or resting key players in tough games. He played Douglas the first time against Malaga on a bad pitch in a tough place to win at. Then he lost two games in a row, with Madrid and Celta, the first time we lost two in a row in a long long time. Then he made a fool of himself resting both Messi and Neymar at San Sebastian, which resulted in a loss, obviously. Then he showed he learned nothing from the game vs Malaga (0-0) and got surprised in an even worse fashion, resulting in the 2nd loss at home without scoring, another negative record since God knows when. After that, we made out alive from the clasico (after being dominated like hell in the first half), almost drew against Celta (which would have put us an incredible 2/12 points won against Celta and Malaga -- imagine that), and now drew this game because he was too scared to go for the kill. Sure, he's done well, more than well sometimes, but he still showed some pretty amateurish things along the season. The only thing it comes down to now, is if he's gonna end the season looking amateurish, or looking good, becase he's shown both his faces plenty of times so far.
 
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Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
Also, it's not the first time he appears to play it safe after a goal or two and switch to control game when our middfield is CLEARLY not up for the task, happened against City, and happened again today.

He's taking the pacing/resting the players too far!
 

footyfan

Calma, calma
I hope he's gone after this season. The subs today ...:facepalm:

what the fuck

It was actually a sensible sub.

Not really, I can understand why he brought Xavi on, but why take Neymar off? The front 3 are imperative to Barca's defensive strategy - Sevilla full backs started pushing forward as soon as the switch to 4-4-2 was made.

Anyway, as Sumlit has pointed out, the game was primarily lost due to individual errors from Bravo, Pique and Suarez
 

Vlom

Previously known as Mehssi
Luis Enrique before the game : "A draw is no good"

Luis Enrique after the game : "No pasa nada, we're still leaders"

Oh yeah, and of course, ZERO self criticism, he made ZERO mistake whatsoever, everything is GREAT .. amazing lucho, keep it up!

...
 

evilhita666

Barçapocalypse NOW!
If good results are not indicator then what is? No seriously, please explain yourself. I still don't see how Neymar was the best player in the game and how the substitution made Pique less focused and lose the ball. But I really want LE to be sacked by the end of the season or before the next game. I just want to see how many new coaches per season it will take for some fans to realize that game console team management and real life team management are completely different things.

It's easy to explain... No team identity nor clear idea of play, wins rely on individual brilliance, star players don't seem to fully trust him, erratic messages to the media, inability to react in key moments of games, tactical disorder, chaotic impulse-driven decisions, inconsistent lineups and stubbornness for the sake of pretending to be clever...

Mourinho can also get good results by playing cynical football and destroying clubs from the inside, does that mean he does a good job? Not in my opinion!

Obviously, that is not to say that Lucho is in the same mold of Mou, they are very far apart and god forbid Lucho becomes anything similar to him, the comparison is just to show that getting good results is not the same as doing a good job...
 

mssarm

Member
10 days ago I posted following comments:
2 months ago fans were screaming for Lucho's head and rumors were that he will be sacked in couple of days.Now Sport publishes an article that they want to renew his contract until 2017. But if loses next game fans will scream for his head again:call him mid table coach with no tactical skills, clueless with rotation and debate who will be better Barca coach- Klopp or Mourinho? I doubt that Lucho will ever become fan favorite like Pep was regardless the silverware he wins for the club. He should not accept a new contract from the club.
I wasn't wrong and I still believe Lucho should leave Barca for his own good. He already proved that he can implement interesting play style and some big teams are definitely interested in his services. Staying Barcelona will not make him happy. Show me another club where after winning 3 months in a row with this incomplete squad fans will be asking the coach's head after 1 fucking draw and while the team is still on top. Staying would be his biggest mistake as Barca coach.
 

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