Luis Enrique

BBZ8800

Senior Member
At this rate you might want to sell Paco, Arda, Gomes and Denis(harsh I know) and bring in Munir back from loan(at least doesn't cost us anything), Bernardo Silva and any CM talent there is. Promote/Call-up Alena a lot too.

We got to make some changes.

Munir alone offers more as a Lw, Cf and Rw than Paco and Denis together.
Alena shouldn't be any worse than Arda/Gomes/Denis as Cms, plus we have enough of Cms.

Even Samper whom I don't rate too highly, surely can't be worse than Gomes and Denis from this season.
Munir+Samper+Alena=0 Millions fee

Gomes+Arda+Paco+Denis=110-120 Millions
 

serghei

Senior Member
Munir alone offers more as a Lw, Cf and Rw than Paco and Denis together.
Alena shouldn't be any worse than Arda/Gomes/Denis as Cms, plus we have enough of Cms.

Even Samper whom I don't rate too highly, surely can't be worse than Gomes and Denis from this season.
Munir+Samper+Alena=0 Millions fee

Gomes+Arda+Paco+Denis=110-120 Millions

Transfers always involve some sort of risk. It's how it is.
 

gatsu

New member
Why are we back to the 433 with roberto as RB. For fucks sake it doesn't work.

You dont rotate in an away game. Knowing that our bench is absolutely shalefull.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Transfers always involve some sort of risk. It's how it is.

Yes, but it's always more sensible to sign players that have played possession based football or the positions you intend to play them in, instead of trying to teach them a new system or position. Most of the times it either takes at least 2-3 seasons to fully integrate, or never.

Arda, Denis wide attacking midfielders. No such position here. Gomes B2B MF in a counter-attacking system. Might have worked if Lucho decided to go with a different system to make use of MSN even more, but I guess he decided against us to avoid the identity criticism he would have faced. Paco I thought could do better, but need more service obviously and seemed to get behind the defence and provide a different kind of CF than Suarez.

Arda should have never been signed though. Guy publicly said he didn't want to run anymore and you sign a player with that mentality? Rubbish.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
I can't blame Turan or Gomes for being shit, not their fault Barca signed them.

Lucho is the one that plays them and is blind to their displays.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Yes, but it's always more sensible to sign players that have played possession based football or the positions you intend to play them in, instead of trying to teach them a new system or position. Most of the times it either takes at least 2-3 seasons or never.

Arda, Denis wide attacking midfielders. No such position here. Gomes B2B MF in a counter-attacking system. Might have worked if Lucho decided to go with a different system to make use of MSN even more, but I guess he decided against us to avoid the identity criticism he would have faced. Paco I thought could do better, but need more service obviously and seemed to get behind the defence and provide a different kind of CF than Suarez.

Arda should have never been signed though. Guy publicly said he didn't want to run anymore and you sign a player with that mentality? Rubbish.

Yea, I think something like this happened. Lucho wanted to do more extensive tactical changes, but the team didn't respond very well to those changes. I've seen us play including counter-attacking football while sitting deep. And Gomes actually played better in those games in which the tactics were different, contrary to the team, which looked worse. And as a result, we now have some players that are used in positions that don't utilize their qualities, and, instead, demand other things they don't have.

So, bottom line, there was some kind of a confusion in Lucho's head about how are we supposed to play. I think, instead of forcing a way of playing and make the opponent play on our terms, we kind of went more reactive.
 
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FlaFCB

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I can't blame Turan or Gomes for being shit, not their fault Barca signed them.

Lucho is the one that plays them and is blind to their displays.

He subbed them both, so maybe he isn't. Why he still insists on playing them, is weird. He sidelined Vidal for less.
Should start calling Aleña and Mujica or Carmona to play, instead of them.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Khaled, you had to watch the game.
Imagine a worst midfield ever.

Then, go even lower to understand the level of today's team.

We lacked batteries, we were drained from Psg's match.
If I could travel back through time, I would personally play: Arda-Suarez-Messi, Iniesta-Raki-Busi-Roberto, Alba-Pique-Masch.
And score 1-2 goals.
When Iniesta and Raki will lose strength, put Gomes and Denis in.

Gomes was a classic horrible Gomes.
Denis had the worst match in Barca's shirt. You had to see his crosses in the 2nd half. Each attempt was 10 meters too long, too high or too inaccurate.
Arda was also horrible.

Now add to this other players with totally drained batteries.

Even though, imo we can still win La liga if we'll win in El Classico.
But that will be possible only if Denis, Gomes and Paco will be miles away from stadium.

I am not arguing we weren't bad,but those are the players we have. We can't play the starters every game specially the older ones who run a lot in midfield.
Playing Iniesta & Rakitic after PSG game isn't worth IMO,resting them was the right decision even if it risked losing points.
And as serghei pointed out it was our best midfielder who were playing when it was 1-1

Obviously we can go to the classic we shouldn't have signed them,which is true (I was against Gomes/Arda signings) but in such game it was really the line up I expected even b4 it was announced. We will have to use the shit players we have.


isn't that why we have barca B? i can assure you any one of kaptoum, alena or mujica wouldve added something.

2 of the 3 names you mentioned aren't even starters in Barca b,and Denis,Roberto were once better than them in Barca B. Alena won't be a difference maker in a game like this.
 

Mitchell1978

Senior Member
I still see potential in Denis and Paco but i don't see what Arda, Gomes can bring to this team.
Rafinha and Sergi Roberto are good squad players but not permanent starters.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Doesn't really matter if Alena isn't a difference maker. As long as he doesn't fuck basics up like Arda and Gomes, that would be a massive improvement.

Either way, from now on, I don't want to see Arda or Gomes start. Sub them in when we're leading with 3-4 goals in a game.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Munir alone offers more as a Lw, Cf and Rw than Paco and Denis together.
Alena shouldn't be any worse than Arda/Gomes/Denis as Cms, plus we have enough of Cms.

Munir really isn't a solution for anything,we need a difference maker in our attack next year. If we decided (and succeeded) to sell Paco I won't mind Munir as back up no9 but not on the wings tbh

He subbed them both, so maybe he isn't. Why he still insists on playing them, is weird. He sidelined Vidal for less.

We had 24 years old Roberto as RB and then we changed the systems some games when we wanted to rest him,was easier when Roberto was the guy that people was wondering why would Barca consider signing a RB when they have Roberto (many posts here about that 1st months in the season) but when he became "Roberto isn't a RB" he decided to let Vidal play. And their was a lot of rumors it was a disciplinary decision to bench Vidal and while Gomes is shit he might be doing his best in training.
 

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