Luis Enrique

God Serena

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yeah: he plays palencia and we tie or draw and you and the others eat him alive for risking a youngster in a must-win match.

lay off. you are just looking for reasons to berate lucho

Oh yeah, I'm sure we'd berate him for doing something we've been begging for since the start of the season. False hypothetical is false.

Especially since he was forced to risk a youngster in Marlon (Something he'd have never done if given the choice) and Marlon actually played well... Marlon who isn't even as good for the B team as Palencia.

But yeah, I'm sure playing Digne and fucking Gomes of all people is a better option than using a B team player. Even if one player was deserving of not one, but two red cards, while the other came on and had a nightmare.
 

ini4ever

Member
yeah: he plays palencia and we tie or draw and you and the others eat him alive for risking a youngster in a must-win match.

lay off. you are just looking for reasons to berate lucho

If even we did we'd be right, the way him and Robert handled the RB situation they deserve criticism.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
Oh yeah, I'm sure we'd berate him for doing something we've been begging for since the start of the season. False hypothetical is false.

Especially since he was forced to risk a youngster in Marlon (Something he'd have never done if given the choice) and Marlon actually played well... Marlon who isn't even as good for the B team as Palencia.

But yeah, I'm sure playing Digne and fucking Gomes of all people is a better option than using a B team player. Even if one player was deserving of not one, but two red cards, while the other came on and had a nightmare.

it was not nearly as bad as you claim it was. it was unorthodox but not disastrous since we won the game with ease.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
The only reason we won so easily is because the ref didn't get Digne either of the red cards he should have been given.

the red card we were forgiven (unfairly i think because digne earned it) would have made it difficult, no doubt, but to claim that it would have resulted in us losing is just speculation. i.e. thiago motta got a red against us in that semi-final tie against inter in 2010 but we still didn't beat inter (in aggregate terms); the red card that vidal was given against real doomed Bayern. it's really indeterminate.
 

God Serena

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the red card we were forgiven (unfairly i think because digne earned it) would have made it difficult, no doubt, but to claim that it would have resulted in us losing is just speculation. i.e. thiago motta got a red against us in that semi-final tie against inter in 2010 but we still didn't beat inter (in aggregate terms); the red card that vidal was given against real doomed Bayern. it's really indeterminate.

It definitely wouldn't have been as easy to win, so it was still clearly a mistake to make that decision.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
It definitely wouldn't have been as easy to win, so it was still clearly a mistake to make that decision.

you are essentially saying that lucho made a mistake by playing digne because digne should have been sent off.

which is another way of saying that lucho somehow knew digne would run the risk of a red card but played him anyway. that's absurd.
 

God Serena

New member
you are essentially saying that lucho made a mistake by playing digne because digne should have been sent off.

which is another way of saying that lucho somehow knew digne would run the risk of a red card but played him anyway. that's absurd.

I'm saying playing Digne was a mistake and his red card performance supports this fact. What line of thinking are you even using? It's just the same as every other blatant mistake Lucho makes that inevitably screws up the team.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
I'm saying playing Digne was a mistake and his red card performance supports this fact. What line of thinking are you even using? It's just the same as every other blatant mistake Lucho makes that inevitably screws up the team.

there have been times, certainly, when lucho's starting line-up decisions have cost us. that wasn't the case today. all im saying is that, considering the margin of victory and our overall superiority, lucho's playing digne at right back was not a mistake at all. other than that challenge--and digne is not and will not be the last defender to ever commit a foul meriting expulsion--digne was okay. not stellar, not abysmal: just okay. the way you are painting it sounds like he scored own goals and gave away penalties. im really not sure what it is you find so objectionable.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
Oh yeah, I'm sure we'd berate him for doing something we've been begging for since the start of the season. False hypothetical is false.

Especially since he was forced to risk a youngster in Marlon (Something he'd have never done if given the choice) and Marlon actually played well... Marlon who isn't even as good for the B team as Palencia.

But yeah, I'm sure playing Digne and fucking Gomes of all people is a better option than using a B team player. Even if one player was deserving of not one, but two red cards, while the other came on and had a nightmare.

Marlon is way more experienced,was once a starter in a good team in Brazil.played U-20 WC with his NT too. Only thing comparable to Palencia is age.

Oh yeah, I'm sure we'd berate him for doing something we've been begging for since the start of the season. False hypothetical is false.

Like it hasn't happened before :lol:
 

MIXA

New member
The right back situation is such a joke that we actually find ourselves in a time where the only person we want to see at right back is Roberto. The very same guy nobody wanted to see at rightback.

What a time to be alive.
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
Don't see a dedicated thread for ''next Barca coach'' therefore i ask here - is the possibility of Unzue taking over likely and what do you see of that?
I personally think it sucks, because if he was any smarter than Lucho, he would probably push through some different ideas, especially on how to organize middlefield. He and Lucho seem to have great mutual trust, which means that they are on the same boat about Barca's current playing style, which is awful imo, at least against the good pressing teams.
Although i recognize the need to have a lot more talented individuals in midlfield, it's painfully obvious that even with current players the overall play could have been better. All we've seen this whole season is awkward and predictable back/sideways passing all the way to Ter Stegen and forward again, with the only creative option in the midst of this being Messis and Neymar's and more rarely, Iniesta's spontaneous brilliance, which has been also deteriorated, because many times our back and middle guys can't even get the ball to any of them in suitable attacking position.
I can't believe this is purely player's incompetence and if coaching stuff is at fault for that, then surely, Unzue can't be innocent bystander in this. Guess he is pretty good at organizing defense as we greatly improved in that field even before new signings, but attacking formations and patterns have stayed mostly the same for all these three years and once they were read by our rivals, no new alterations came to manifest.
 
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Barcaman

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Staff member
Don't see a dedicated thread for ''next Barca coach'' therefore i ask here - is the possibility of Unzue taking over likely and what do you see of that?

There's a thread on Next Barca coach in Polls section.

Unzue is a slim possibility. Bookmakers rate Valverde as done deal and 8 times more likely to coach Barca than Unzue.

I agree with you that we need new ideas and Unzue can't be an answer to that. No do I think that the same face will be able to motivate squad (our biggest issue imo.).
 

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