You're getting nostalgic. What has changed? Ask yourself how many strikers with Suarez' skill set that keep on trucking at the highest level well into their 30s?
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You're getting nostalgic. What has changed? Ask yourself how many strikers with Suarez' skill set that keep on trucking at the highest level well into their 30s?
perardgique
New member
He is completely out of form for a long time. But there isn't a better striker than in-form Suarez. New coach can bring him back. Unzue to the rescue
If you are good enough, you are old enough. Umtiti hasnt crumbled. These are the type of transfers we should be doing. Mbappe and Dembele are two of the best players in the world and the longer we wait, the less likely it is we will get either.
Serbian
New member
Please suarez has very very limited injury tract record he should be easily playing at a very high level for another 3 years minmum. Ibrahimovic is still trucking at 35, but main difference is Everything goes to him he is the focal point, people cry about suarez and sell him?! Can you even fathom how great Suarez would be under a klopp system of high pressing and very fast build up with direct passes? This system under Enrique is god awful for him I agree that the whole " Barca style" system in general is not the best suited for him, thats why " Van Basten" was shocked that Suarez adapted to barca System because Suarez is a renegade opportunistic striker that is the best in chaos situations. According to van Basten he thought Suarez playing for juventus style team would be the best for his style
Neymessi
Active member
He is very very one dimensional. I have never seen such difference in qualities in any player. He can score, sometimes really tough goals but at other times miss a ton of easy chances, but apart from scoring he looks like someone who started playing football yesterday. His ball control, running with the ball, passing etc are so mediocre and it has been for a long ass time not just today. His one-touch-pass-and-run thing and jumping over the ball and leaning on the defender and all that is frustrating as hell.
He scored often and thats good but you point out his obvious flaws here and everyone just lose their minds. He needs to be better in other areas. The team can't always keep creating chances for him to score.
Edit: Just read people want him sold. Yeah he has aged but what makes you think there is someone who will give us as much as he can to us. He is a scoring machine and we need someone to dispatch chances consistently all season long which he can.
He scored often and thats good but you point out his obvious flaws here and everyone just lose their minds. He needs to be better in other areas. The team can't always keep creating chances for him to score.
Edit: Just read people want him sold. Yeah he has aged but what makes you think there is someone who will give us as much as he can to us. He is a scoring machine and we need someone to dispatch chances consistently all season long which he can.
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TornAndFrayed
Banned
Not like I'd sell him yet but this is why I was upset at his contract extension. Simply too long.
Blaugrana Bull
HiiiPoWeR
What really annoys me about Suarez is that he is not capable to keep possession. Like he does not know how to move his body parts to control a ball and play it back into midfield just for the sake of keeping it.
I understand that he would not score so much without having that constant hunger for goal and sometimes he produces magical goals because of that. But there are situations that are just impossible to convert into chances and he still tries. Most of the time those end with him falling down and going bonkers about not getting a call.
Why not give his mates more opportunities to get the ball back and continue build up to give him a better opportunity?
Sure you can't have everything and that is a downside that a striker like Suarez has who has in no doubt brought us a ton of trophies in only two seasons. But he could improve according to the situation he is in.
I understand that he would not score so much without having that constant hunger for goal and sometimes he produces magical goals because of that. But there are situations that are just impossible to convert into chances and he still tries. Most of the time those end with him falling down and going bonkers about not getting a call.
Why not give his mates more opportunities to get the ball back and continue build up to give him a better opportunity?
Sure you can't have everything and that is a downside that a striker like Suarez has who has in no doubt brought us a ton of trophies in only two seasons. But he could improve according to the situation he is in.
klc123
Member
I can't really blame Suarez for most of the games he is quiet or had a bad performance. In the two Juventus games I cant remember him receiving the ball in a goal scoring opportunity once. Every time he got anything close to a sniff at goal was from him manufacturing it on his own from the scraps the midfield offered.
Someone above mentioned that he is the most one-dimensional striker he has ever seen. I really cannot comprehend how anyone would come to this conclusion. Suarez is possibly the furthest you can get from one dimensional. He's not having a good run of form at the moment, but the entire team isn't. A striker cannot do anything if the midfield behind him are incapable of keeping the ball and showing some creativity going forwards. The game plan from iniesta and rakitic yesterday just seemed to be 'pass the ball into feet and hope that one of the front three can figure something out'.
Someone above mentioned that he is the most one-dimensional striker he has ever seen. I really cannot comprehend how anyone would come to this conclusion. Suarez is possibly the furthest you can get from one dimensional. He's not having a good run of form at the moment, but the entire team isn't. A striker cannot do anything if the midfield behind him are incapable of keeping the ball and showing some creativity going forwards. The game plan from iniesta and rakitic yesterday just seemed to be 'pass the ball into feet and hope that one of the front three can figure something out'.
DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
You should watch the first game again then.
Messi handed him one golden chance and another decent one he scuffed.
Neymessi
Active member
Yes he is one dimensional. He used to be an all rounder beast in liverpool and also in barca's first season but no more. He doesn't and can't dribble past players,doesn't and can't create chances. He relies highly on service and goalscoring chances. And this has been since a long time not just currently.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
So, our board signed long extensions and planned to play with Iniesta, Rakitic and Msn until 2020 and 2022?
A pure gold.
Lucho is an IQ mastermind compared with Barto, Robert and their predicting of future and player's peaks/abilities/and motivation.
I am not going to dig stats now, but I have a feeling that our starting 11 is the oldest starting 11 which Barca had in the last 30 years.
It's no wonder that our team suddenly struggles with running, pace, pressing, movement, motivation and similar.
Masterminds (the board) with 5 year long extensions for 30 year old players.
I could understand extensions for Messi and Neymar. But for others...
They probably planned a CL final in 2023 with Busi, Iniesta, Raki + Msn lineup.
A pure gold.
Lucho is an IQ mastermind compared with Barto, Robert and their predicting of future and player's peaks/abilities/and motivation.
I am not going to dig stats now, but I have a feeling that our starting 11 is the oldest starting 11 which Barca had in the last 30 years.
It's no wonder that our team suddenly struggles with running, pace, pressing, movement, motivation and similar.
Masterminds (the board) with 5 year long extensions for 30 year old players.
I could understand extensions for Messi and Neymar. But for others...
They probably planned a CL final in 2023 with Busi, Iniesta, Raki + Msn lineup.
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serghei
Senior Member
Sounded odd to me too. But it's not such a big big problem if you ask me, because if they will not be starters anymore they will look to move. It's not like they would gladly accept to sit on the bench just to see out their contracts.
BBZ8800
Senior Member
There is a problem like with Arda, Song etc.
For example, if Rakitic will be even weaker, he has high wages here.
No one will give him equal wages and no one will pay a fee for him due to high wages and poor current form.
In 1-2 years, Raki's worth will be the same as Song's, Verm's and Arda's.
He will be an old guy past his prime and with high wages.
He will either stay forever or we will be able to sell him for 2-5 millions (clubs will pay a small fee in order to be able to pay his wages).
Suarez will be able to find a new club.
But Iniesta and Rakitic will be in the same situation as current Arda, Verm.
We already won't earn nothing from Verm and Arda (not because our board doesn't know how to negotiate but because of high wages, long contract and players aged 30+) and soon the same will happen with Raki, Iniesta, Busi.
They will all either stay here on insanely high wages until the age 35-36 or will be released for 0-2 millions.
So, we are planning to buy new guys like Verratti and Coutinho and yet we won't get rid of older guys plus thwy are on high wages and in 12-18 months no one will want to buy them.
With this way of managing our club, I don't see where will directors find 100-150m for new signings.
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