Man of the Match 13/14 edition

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footyfan

Calma, calma
:lol::lol:

Sorry, this is the first time in a while I literally burst out laughing after reading a post here.

LMAO

DAT graph. :VdB:

I don't get your agenda though. You're comparing a good midfielder to an all-time great midfielder. What's your point?
 

Trickykid

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Here it is.

There you are.

Edit again: I'm a moron. The chart is correct, but not including the CdR tie.

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Ursegor

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I don't get your agenda though. You're comparing a good midfielder to an all-time great midfielder. What's your point?

Tell that to the people who want Iniesta to be moved to the right wing so we can accommodate the mighty Fabregas.

My agenda is clear anyway: Fabregas out! :alveshat:
 
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Flavia

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I don't get your agenda though. You're comparing a good midfielder to an all-time great midfielder. What's your point?

I think it's because there were people saying Cesc doesn't disappear in all big games. I actually didn't think it'd be this bad, Cesc with zero.
 

Trickykid

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I'm about to add the CdR tie against Sociedad. Cesc had two third place finishes, but considering that the general voting attendance is rather low in CdR ties, I doubt the voting points/minutes chart will change much. I'll have them both up in 10 mins or so.
 

Trickykid

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I'm about to add the CdR tie against Sociedad. Cesc had two third place finishes, but considering that the general voting attendance is rather low in CdR ties, I doubt the voting points/minutes chart will change much. I'll have them both up in 10 mins or so.

Right, there we are. Both charts are now including the CdR tie against Sociedad.

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footyfan

Calma, calma
Right, there we are. Both charts are now including the CdR tie against Sociedad.

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Massive thanks Trickykid. Iniesta re-inforces his status as a big-game player of the highest order.

Keep up the good work.

Tell that to the people who want Iniesta to be moved to the right wing so we can accommodate the mighty Fabregas.

My agenda is clear anyway: Fabregas out! :alveshat:

I agree that's not a bright idea. I'd sell Fabregas too, in fact I've advocated for it multiple times, but not if there aren't better options available. I'd sell him only if we bought Gundogan or Kroos. Certainly not inferior players like Rakitic as was suggested after his good game vs Madrid. We can't forget that Fabregas was bought with the post-Xavi future in mind. Unless a really high-calibre midfielder is available, he's here to stay.

Insults like Crapregas are not necessary every week.

I think it's because there were people saying Cesc doesn't disappear in all big games. I actually didn't think it'd be this bad, Cesc with zero.

But you should also consider that in the majority of the big games that Fabregas has played in, he's had Iniesta on the LW which undeniably restricts his game play. Also played at false 9 and we all know that's a stop gap measure as he's not talented enough for that position vs the better teams. We've never played Cesc-Busquets-Xavi with 3 forwards or Cesc-Busquets-Iniesta with 3 forwards against the better teams, it's hard to judge Fabregas' true worth as those formations bring out the best in him.

I agree that he looks lost a lot of the times, but it's up to a personal interpretation whether that is because of tactics/instructions or just the players' style of play. Ursegor, for example, believes that roaming around at the CF position is Fabregas' natural game. Having followed him at Arsenal and for the national team (when a striker plays), I don't have an inkling as to how he came to this conclusion. I think it's very clearly a deliberate tactic, at Barcelona, because it utilises his strengths (1-2s and movement) and keeps him away from his weakness (losing the ball in the build up/awareness). And he's consistently played despite being poor, which leads me to believe that he's doing what is asked of him.

I want to see how Fabregas plays after Xavi retires, when he doesn't have a giant shadow looming over him.
 

raskolnikov

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But does Fabregas lack of big game performances mean he has always underperformed in them this season? Its also possible to be decent yet not get a top 3 ranking right? That seems to happen to Busi a lot.
Iniesta is a big game player so Cesc aint on that level and we can accept that imo but if we had a rating system and he had an overall 7 grade in big games we wouldnt critisize him depsite others doing better, if he had a 3 its obviously different, now it seems a bit difficult to rate how good/bad he really was. If you expect him to boss it like Iniesta or Messi then its obviously going to be dissapointing.
 

Trickykid

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But does Fabregas lack of big game performances mean he has always underperformed in them this season? Its also possible to be decent yet not get a top 3 ranking right? That seems to happen to Busi a lot.
Iniesta is a big game player so Cesc aint on that level and we can accept that imo but if we had a rating system and he had an overall 7 grade in big games we wouldnt critisize him depsite others doing better, if he had a 3 its obviously different, now it seems a bit difficult to rate how good/bad he really was. If you expect him to boss it like Iniesta or Messi then its obviously going to be dissapointing.

I agree completely that the system is flawed by it's nature, but if you look at the voting points/minutes it still paints a very clear picture of the problem. When you take all games into consideration, Fabregas has 0,380 points/minute which puts him at 4th place this season. In the big games chart he is down to less than a third at 0,113 at 10th.
 
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