Marc Bartra

Ronnie10

New member
I would like you to know that I blame Tata majorly for this. Suspend your sarcasm and try to understand what i am saying
Rosell may not be directly responsible but he has to shoulder the blame somewhat. Whether by his actions or inactions he has to shoulder some responsibility for the decline in our focus in the cantera. he is the president. If this his not his responsibility then what is? Increasing revenue only?

Rosell could've bought new CB. Then Bartra wouldn't have been able get any playing time and leave in the future. You should realize that Rosell did a huge favor for Bartra, that possibly gonna change his career.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Rosell could've bought new CB. Then Bartra wouldn't have been able get any playing time and leave in the future. You should realize that Rosell did a huge favor for Bartra, that possibly gonna change his career.

Like he didn't try to sign one...... He and the rest of the board were obsessed with Thiago Silva and later David Luiz all summer. Had it been upto them then a CB would have been signed, but their incompetence to choose the right target and/or not taking a hint of rejection(T.Silva) ruined the chances to sign one in the end.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
How many times it has to be said even if bartra performs we still need a cb. Puyol's days are numbered. Masch isn't a cb and pique needs competition. If bartra doesn't make it we need 2 cbs. Trying to sign Thiago Silva is independent of the fate of Bartra
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
How many times it has to be said even if bartra performs we still need a cb. Puyol's days are numbered. Masch isn't a cb and pique needs competition. If bartra doesn't make it we need 2 cbs. Trying to sign Thiago Silva is independent of the fate of Bartra

Pep liked him as a centre back in probably the strongest Barca line up of all time.

Just today Puyol has said how important Masch is and he is a better CB than DM.

He has been the best CB for the last couple of years and most of the heavy defeats have been without him when teams have counter attacked with ease.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Like he didn't try to sign one...... He and the rest of the board were obsessed with Thiago Silva and later David Luiz all summer. Had it been upto them then a CB would have been signed, but their incompetence to choose the right target and/or not taking a hint of rejection(T.Silva) ruined the chances to sign one in the end.

Identifying a CB and getting them in has nothing to do with Rosell, he went with those who are employed to make those decisions.

Luiz and Thiago Silva were virtually impossible to get and they decided not to panic and over pay for a player.

The transfers under Rosell have improved hugely
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Identifying a CB and getting them in has nothing to do with Rosell, he went with those who are employed to make those decisions.

Luiz and Thiago Silva were virtually impossible to get and they decided not to panic and over pay for a player.

The transfers under Rosell have improved hugely

Really? So what do you say about Rosell's interview where he talked about Silva? Why would he do that if he had nothing to do with that decision to pursue him?
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Really? So what do you say about Rosell's interview where he talked about Silva? Why would he do that if he had nothing to do with that decision to pursue him?

Because the club were perusing him and is the main spokesman for the club.

What part do you think Rosell played? Do you think he chose him as the CB the club wanted?
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Because the club were perusing him and is the main spokesman for the club.

What part do you think Rosell played? Do you think he chose him as the CB the club wanted?

Not really. If Rosell has nothing to do with transfers then he should not talk and let Toni Frexia do his job as the spokesperson.

I believe he along with the board took that decision. I simply do not believe that Zubi or anyone else did not discuss it with Sandro before making a move.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
Identifying a CB and getting them in has nothing to do with Rosell, he went with those who are employed to make those decisions.

Luiz and Thiago Silva were virtually impossible to get and they decided not to panic and over pay for a player.

The transfers under Rosell have improved hugely

Rosell is not responsible for transfers, cantera focus according to his defenders. So what is his role really? Increased revenues and board meetings only? Why dont we hire an Harvard MBA then? He would do a better job and take less salary

What about Neymar. That was all Rosell and his Nike connections. So dont say he's not involved in transfers
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Not really. If Rosell has nothing to do with transfers then he should not talk and let Toni Frexia do his job as the spokesperson.

I believe he along with the board took that decision. I simply do not believe that Zubi or anyone else did not discuss it with Sandro before making a move.

Of course they will have discussed targets, they would need to as to if they have a budget etc to even buy those players.

There is a massive difference between that and Rosell having and influence on which players the club should pursue on ability.

If he has as much influence as you say then well played Rosell as transfers have improved massively under him.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Rosell is not responsible for transfers, cantera focus according to his defenders. So what is his role really? Increased revenues and board meetings only? Why dont we hire an Harvard MBA then? He would do a better job and take less salary

What about Neymar. That was all Rosell and his Nike connections. So dont say he's not involved in transfers

'Cantera focus'?

You just ignoring the fact that the number of Cantera players in the first team squad has almost doubled in his time?
 

Cule4life

The Culest
'Cantera focus'?

You just ignoring the fact that the number of Cantera players in the first team squad has almost doubled in his time?

Again its pointless to talk with you. More accurate measure of cantera focus is the amount of playtime young cantaneros like Cuenca, Bartra etc. get rather than the amount of players of whom most go on loan and others hardly get playtime. Also the B team is buying way too many players instead of developing

And before you talk smack about Cuenca i will remind you that he couldnt have done any worse than Pedro.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Again its pointless to talk with you. More accurate measure of cantera focus is the amount of playtime young cantaneros like Cuenca, Bartra etc. get rather than the amount of players of whom most go on loan and others hardly get playtime. Also the B team is buying way too many players instead of developing

Cuenca is injured and not good enough for much more playing time.

Bartra has played more games this season than any previous one.

What do you want Rosell to do demand that cantera players play?

You have little clue whatsoever do you?

For what its worth there were two players out on loan in Laportas last season, there are three this season.

As for buying palyers to hinder the b team players?? What about the millions wasted on up and coming South American players under Laporta that barely kicked a ball for the club?

Even the best b team under Laporta was heavily made up of non cantera players like Soriano and Nolito. I would wager if i compared that squad to the one now there would be little difference in cantera players in the squad.

Almost evreything you say has little foundation.
 

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