Marco Verratti

Icarium

Lifestealer
More money implies counterparties, simple ain't it ?

Maybe but not necessarily, it is still a contract. At any case he has to try to force his move, if he doesn't go through i am sure he will continue playing with PSG. Sitting on bench is not a good choice for both the player and the club.
 

Jombi

New member
Circumstances differ yes, but ADM did force his way out. But it was made easier by the fact that United weren't really interested in keeping him. He was always going to leave and he made that clear.



And coming to Suarez, my point was being contract extensions mean nothing. It is just a way to get higher salary.



With Pique, Marlon and Umtiti and potential signing of Yerry Mina i hardly call that aging. Iniesta is nearing his end of career and raki impact is reduced, that is why we need a good midfielder like verratti. Right back we need to sign anyway. If he doesn't we will go for Dembele, probably next window. That is why we are signing Deulofeu a temporary solution. Selling unwanted players is tough, but even getting some of their wages of the wage structure is a bonus. Arda and Mathieu should leave, Rafinha maybe.

Fabinho, Lemar and Keita? None of them will make an impact like Verratti. Fabinho is a DM, we don't need one right now unless you plan to sit Busi on the bench. If he strictly plays at RB then we could go for him, but he want to play at DM position apparently. Lemar is a wide midfielder and winger and definitely good enough to compete with Messi and Neymar. Naby Keita has potential but definitely not an improvement over the likes of Raki and Iniesta. He could be the backup option though along with Seri. All the names you suggested are middle tier, signing them would be a huge mistake if we could sign Verratti instead of them. 3 players wages will be higher than one player wage. Also we already have too many players in the squad we don't need more fringe players.

Marlon? Really? He has shown absolutely nothing so far. Iniesta? You want him to be a starter for yet another year with his legs done? We are signing Deulofeu? Thats just pure speculation and he isnt good enough anyway. Verratti will cost an arm and a leg and we wont have the money for a RB. We have truckloads of people on high wages who are not good enough and that means we will be lucky to just loan them out while paying part of their wages. Some we are likely stuck with. This big amount of garbage means our transfer budget is reduced.

Fabinho is a versatile player, including RB, its the position he thinks is his best position. I have no idea what you are talking about him not wanting to play RB. Lemar isnt a winger. He's very similar to Iniesta who also played wide in our system in his younger years. Monaco plays a flat 4-4-2 and that means Lemar and Silva are out wide. Doesnt mean Lemar is a winger. Iniesta is his role model. You dont seem to know anything about any of these players and just call them middle tier and a huge mistake. Not credible.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I would not mind signing Lemar too, but we need a midfielder like Verratti.

No question about it.

Need a CM who can distribute possession, control the tempo of the game, dominate the middle of the park. Not another AM or DM.

That's what players like Kroos, Modric, Thiago are or resemble.

And Verratti is that in its purest form.
 
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Jombi

New member
I would not mind signing Lemar too, but we need a midfielder like Verratti.

No question about it.

Need a CM who can distribute possession, control the tempo of the game, dominate the middle of the park. Not another AM or DM.

That's what players like Kroos, Modric, Thiago is or resemble.

And Verratti is that in its purest form.

We wont have the money for anything else with Verratti signing. And he's injury prone. And its just a pipe dream at this point anyway. Going for Naby, Lemar and Fabinho is the best solution. At least they are not pipe dreams.
 

Lutece FC

New member
Marlon? Really? He has shown absolutely nothing so far. Iniesta? You want him to be a starter for yet another year with his legs done? We are signing Deulofeu? Thats just pure speculation and he isnt good enough anyway. Verratti will cost an arm and a leg and we wont have the money for a RB. We have truckloads of people on high wages who are not good enough and that means we will be lucky to just loan them out while paying part of their wages. Some we are likely stuck with. This big amount of garbage means our transfer budget is reduced.

Fabinho is a versatile player, including RB, its the position he thinks is his best position. I have no idea what you are talking about him not wanting to play RB. Lemar isnt a winger. He's very similar to Iniesta who also played wide in our system in his younger years. Monaco plays a flat 4-4-2 and that means Lemar and Silva are out wide. Doesnt mean Lemar is a winger. Iniesta is his role model. You dont seem to know anything about any of these players and just call them middle tier and a huge mistake. Not credible.
Fabinho is excellent and i'm sure for 40M€ Monaco will let him go where he wants. Lemar is verry good but you can find other player with his level. Fabinho is a rare talent.
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
Marlon? Really? He has shown absolutely nothing so far. Iniesta? You want him to be a starter for yet another year with his legs done? We are signing Deulofeu? Thats just pure speculation and he isnt good enough anyway. Verratti will cost an arm and a leg and we wont have the money for a RB. We have truckloads of people on high wages who are not good enough and that means we will be lucky to just loan them out while paying part of their wages. Some we are likely stuck with. This big amount of garbage means our transfer budget is reduced.

Fabinho is a versatile player, including RB, its the position he thinks is his best position. I have no idea what you are talking about him not wanting to play RB. Lemar isnt a winger. He's very similar to Iniesta who also played wide in our system. Iniesta is his role model. You dont seem to know anything about any of these players and just call them middle tier and a huge mistake. Not credible.

As i said if Fabinho is a RB signing i wouldn't mind. But his best season came at DM position, Lemar is a wide midfielder primarily and a winger secondarily from what i have read, we don't need that type of player anymore. What we need is a midfielder who can hold the center and can provide help to Busi in both attack and defense. They are middle tier, don't be delusional. How can you even compare them to players like Verratti?

Marlon showed good promise, he will be a good backup. Better than Mathieu for sure. Iniesta will not be a starter, he will probably see less number of minutes, but he won't be a pure backup either. He will start lot of matches at least for the coming season, he might perform better with a supporting player like Verratti or even Seri. Some reliable sources reporting we are signing Deulofeu, not just speculation. But Deulofeu might reject us, it is up to valverde now.

If Verratti costs over 100M i am sure we won't go that far, if he is coming it will not be more than 100M i can assure you. So you imply that signing Lemar and Keita for 100M is better than signing Verratti 100M. I mean seriously? If transfer budget is reduced how we will sign all the names you mentioned for 150M? That is if they come at that cost, Fabinho and Lemar might cost more.
 

behindbrowneyes

Well-known member
If Verratti really wanted to leave the club, why did he sign contract extension EVERY YEAR ?

For the moment we only have his agent opening his mouth with ambivalent remarks ... Nothing concrete on his intentions.

It's another saga to sell paper maybe some people here are bored.

In the last years you won at least Ligue1. This year you didn't won a big title. I know, Barça didn't one either, but most people would agree that our chances are much bigger to compete in CL and win the league title again. Don't you believe winning Ligue1 year after year doesn't become boring for a player like Verratti?

Your club made promises to Verratti that PSG will compete for the big titles, but it doesn't seem to happen anytime soon. You have Cavani, you have Silva and some other great players and you have the money to afford some new stars. You can afford Messi, but he won't join. Don't you think Verratti has the desire to compete in a better league, alongside top10 players like Neymar and Suárez and with the best player in history? Cavani is great, but he is nowhere near Messi or Neymar when it comes to prestige.

Why did he renew his contract? Because you offered him more money and made clear you won't sell him while promising him things you can't fulfil. Maybe Verratti has seen enough now and realised that his chances to win something great are much higher with Barça. Call me ignorant or arrogant, truth is playing for Barça brings much more prestige than playing for PSG. Money is the major reason why players join you and not any of them dreamed of playing for PSG one day. Its the same with ugly millionaires having pretty girlfriends. They "love" them for their money, not for the man they are.
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
If Fabinho is really willing to play at RB barca should try to sign him, but i read he refused to go to City because he wanted to play at DM. And at Monaco his best season came this year that too at DM, so i am sure he wants to continue that.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
We wont have the money for anything else with Verratti signing. And he's injury prone. And its just a pipe dream at this point anyway. Going for Naby, Lemar and Fabinho is the best solution. At least they are not pipe dreams.

Think you are over stating Verratti as injury prone. He had a bad time for injuries in 15/16 but last season and the two previous to that he seems to be fine.

I am sure in past debates you have said Fabinho doesnt have it going forward to be a Barca level full back.
 

Jombi

New member
As i said if Fabinho is a RB signing i wouldn't mind. But his best season came at DM position, Lemar is a wide midfielder primarily and a winger secondarily from what i have read, we don't need that type of player anymore. What we need is a midfielder who can hold the center and can provide help to Busi in both attack and defense. They are middle tier, don't be delusional. How can you even compare them to players like Verratti?

Marlon showed good promise, he will be a good backup. Better than Mathieu for sure. Iniesta will not be a starter, he will probably see less number of minutes, but he won't be a pure backup either. He will start lot of matches at least for the coming season, he might perform better with a supporting player like Verratti or even Seri. Some reliable sources reporting we are signing Deulofeu, not just speculation. But Deulofeu might reject us, it is up to valverde now.

If Verratti costs over 100M i am sure we won't go that far, if he is coming it will not be more than 100M i can assure you. So you imply that signing Lemar and Keita for 100M is better than signing Verratti 100M. I mean seriously? If transfer budget is reduced how we will sign all the names you mentioned for 150M? That is if they come at that cost, Fabinho and Lemar might cost more.

OK, now you are getting ridiculous. You're hyping up Marlon and try to play down players like Lemar, Naby and Fabinho? You havent even watched Thomas Lemar play? He's not a winger, he's like Iniesta. Yes, we desperately need to bench Iniesta. Of course its pure speculation that Deulofeu will be signed. And no, he's not good enough. You can assure us that Verratti wont cost more than 100m? Your "assurances" mean nothing. PSG wont let someone like that go for whatever you claim he'll cost. And then you claim Lemar and Fabinho and Keita will be really, really expensive compared to Verratti? Sorry, but this isnt credible at all.
 

Jombi

New member
If Fabinho is really willing to play at RB barca should try to sign him, but i read he refused to go to City because he wanted to play at DM. And at Monaco his best season came this year that too at DM, so i am sure he wants to continue that.

He was amazing at RB before last season so I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to read lots of things.
 

Lutece FC

New member
In the last years you won at least Ligue1. This year you didn't won a big title. I know, Barça didn't one either, but most people would agree that our chances are much bigger to compete in CL and win the league title again. Don't you believe winning Ligue1 year after year doesn't become boring for a player like Verratti?

Your club made promises to Verratti that PSG will compete for the big titles, but it doesn't seem to happen anytime soon. You have Cavani, you have Silva and some other great players and you have the money to afford some new stars. You can afford Messi, but he won't join. Don't you think Verratti has the desire to compete in a better league, alongside top10 players like Neymar and Suárez and with the best player in history? Cavani is great, but he is nowhere near Messi or Neymar when it comes to prestige.

Why did he renew his contract? Because you offered him more money and made clear you won't sell him while promising him things you can't fulfil. Maybe Verratti has seen enough now and realised that his chances to win something great are much higher with Barça. Call me ignorant or arrogant, truth is playing for Barça brings much more prestige than playing for PSG. Money is the major reason why players join you and not any of them dreamed of playing for PSG one day. Its the same with ugly millionaires having pretty girlfriends. They "love" them for their money, not for the man they are.
Wonderful. Now we have a new level in terms of stupid comparaison. Who can do better ? C'mon guys ...
 

Icarium

Lifestealer
OK, now you are getting ridiculous. You're hyping up Marlon and try to play down players like Lemar, Naby and Fabinho? You havent even watched Thomas Lemar play? He's not a winger, he's like Iniesta. Yes, we desperately need to bench Iniesta. Of course its pure speculation that Deulofeu will be signed. And no, he's not good enough. You can assure us that Verratti wont cost more than 100m? Your "assurances" mean nothing. PSG wont let someone like that go for whatever you claim he'll cost. And then you claim Lemar and Fabinho and Keita will be really, really expensive compared to Verratti? Sorry, but this isnt credible at all.

I am not hyping up Marlon, he will be a squad player. A mere backup, 4th choice that too. I am not downplaying Lemar and Naby, i already said i rate fabinho highly, he is a proven talent. Lemar and Naby not so much, they showed potential. But we are looking for a starter not a backup, what is the guarantee that they will outperform Iniesta and Rakitic? This would be similar to signing Denis and Gomes who showed potential too mind i say.

Ofcourse deulofeu is nowhere near good to play for barca, but we might sign him to be a backup for now. Barca will change its formation, the one where Iniesta doesn't have a place. So no i disagree Lemar is a priority over a CM. Verratti, Seri, Keita these are the players profiles we need to look at, desperately. That is our biggest weakness.

My assurance is barca not paying more than 100M for Verratti, we simply can't. I never gave assurance that PSG will sell him for less than 100M, i clearly said if we sign him it will not be more than 100M. I am just quoting your prices of Lemar, Fabinho and Kieta, i did not even refer any other rumors. 150M greater than 100M, simple math. No one is buying verratti for more than 100M, if he is not coming we will look for other targets. My point being signing verratti will have better impact than signing Lemar and keita. Don't bring arguments like he will cost a leg and whatnot, speak from football aspects why you think otherwise.

He was amazing at RB before last season so I have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to read lots of things.

I said his best season was last season, that came at DM. Don't see what your point is either.
 
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Jombi

New member
I am not hyping up Marlon, he will be a squad player. A mere backup, 4th choice that too. I am not downplaying Lemar and Naby, i already said i rate fabinho highly, he is a proven talent. Lemar and Naby not so much, they showed potential. But we are looking for a starter not a backup, what is the guarantee that they will outperform Iniesta and Rakitic? This would be similar to signing Denis and Gomes who showed potential too mind i say.

Ofcourse deulofeu is nowhere near good to play for barca, but we might sing him to be a backup for now. Barca will change its formation, the one where Iniesta doesn't have a place. So no i disagree Lemar is a priority over a CM. Verratti, Seri, Keita these are the players profiles we need to look at, desperately. That is our biggest weakness.

My assurance is barca not paying more than 100M for Verratti, we simply can't. I never gave assurance that PSG will sell him for less than 100M, i clearly said if we sign him it will not be more than 100M. I am just quoting your prices of Lemar, Fabinho and Kieta, i did not even refer any other rumors. 150M greater than 100M, simple math. No one is buying verratti for more than 100M, if he is not coming we will look for other targets. My point being signing verratti will have better impact than signing Lemar and keita. Don't bring arguments like he will cost a leg and whatnot, speak from football aspects why you think otherwise.



I said his best season was last season, that came at DM. Don't see what is your point is either.

Sorry, but our CBs are aging, and you are hyping up Marlon with nothing to show for it. Fabinho "proven talent", Lemar and Naby showed potential? You just claimed that you read that Lemar is a winger, you just judge players based on how much hype they get. Thats why you want Verratti. He is the most hyped. Anyone else will be less hyped so will be like Gomes and Denis and Paco. This is a ridiculous way to judge potential transfers.
 

Neymessi

Active member
Wonderful. Now we have a new level in terms of stupid comparaison. Who can do better ? C'mon guys ...

Wonderful. Now we have a new level in terms of stupid comparaison. Who can do better ? C'mon guys ...

Money is one of the factors for a player to decide but most of the times the chances of winning silverware is a bigger one. PSG was able to afford verratti and give him his wages but verratti wanted more than just that and its been a good amount of time since PSG are throwing money all around and they have done jack in Europe. Not to mention they couldn't even win their league this time.

In this situation any decent player with half a brain will know better than to waste his peak years there. Him signing a contract a year ago shows he he had some faith in PSG but they don't look like achieving anything massive any time soon and this horrendous season has revealed it. I am almost hundred 100% sure he wants out and the media reports are close to what they are claiming and there is nothing wrong to think that considering the circumstances.
 

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