Neymar Jr. - v5

[BarcaMessi]

Not saying they are worse just asking what he brings that makes him so important to making them a CL dark horse.

'Some better defence' doesnt say much.

they did lose to Swansea but they also beat Man city 4-3 and led them 4-1 at one point in that game. Barca has been dominating domestically but also trailing Espanyol in copa.

If beat Man City 4-3 and leading them 4-1 does not ring some warning bells, I don't know what will.

Pique has had Roberto at RB plenty of times...

and looked flaky and exposed.

 

[JamDav1982]

they did lose to Swansea but they also beat Man city 4-3 and led them 4-1 at one point in that game. Barca has been dominating domestically but also trailing Espanyol in copa.

They beat City without VVD and lost to Swansea with him.

You are still not answering what VVD brings to make them CL dark horses.

 

[Joan]

they did lose to Swansea but they also beat Man city 4-3 and led them 4-1 at one point in that game. Barca has been dominating domestically but also trailing Espanyol in copa.

If beat Man City 4-3 and leading them 4-1 does not ring some warning bells, I don't know what will.

VVD didn't play against City

If you had watched them yesterday, you'd know they show tactical vulnerability since high pressing is the only weapon they have.
We've played some games against teams who press high this season, didn't we?

 

[JamDav1982]

and looked flaky and exposed.

Against who?

 

[vlad]

Did I say Pique must not make ANY mistake at all.

Just wait until Pique has Roberto or Vidal as his right back and see if any one those guys can cover/save his ass like Semedo has/can.

What pique needs to prove? He is top defender, in top3 when he is on form, there isnt better defender then pique for barca, proven on highest level.

Funny thing is how you would put mina instead of pique

Looking at your "winning all" line up, you play to much PES and less give attention how football works in real world.

 

[BarcaMessi]

VVD didn't play against City

and Keita has yet to join them.

Against who?

whenever they played next to each other in tough games.

What pique needs to prove? He is top defender, in top3 when he is on form, there isnt better defender then pique for barca, proven on highest level.

Funny thing is how you would put mina instead of pique

Looking at your "winning all" line up, you play to much PES and less give attention how football works in real world.

I don't have PES. why don't you present you winning-all line up and see if it wins all.

 

[JamDav1982]

whenever they played next to each other in tough games.

Nope.

You make all these claims then never back them up.

Still waiting to here what VVD brings to make Liverpool CL contenders.

 

[Joan]

Yet your argument only depended on 1 game which I agree Rakitic played defense.

There were plenty of games before in the 17-18 season where Rakitic slows jogs around as if he is Messi.

My argument depends on 1 game? that was just a recent example
Rakitić has played 20 la liga games while Pique has performed in 15. Yet we conceded only 9 goals which makes us the best defense of the Spanish league.
What do you think that's due to? I'd tip on the formation.
Also, check Valverde's last comments on Rak.

 

[BarcaMessi]

Nope.

You make all these claims then never back them up.

Still waiting to here what VVD brings to make Liverpool CL contenders.

and you make claims and back them up? just go watch the super Copa loss, and watch Pique's own goal and how he worked with asensio on his goals.

Beating Man city 4-3, and leading them 4-1 at one point without VVD. Can Barca Guarantee leading Man city 4-1 in a game today?

 

[JamDav1982]

and you make claims and back them up? just go watch the super Copa loss, and watch Pique's own goal and how he worked with asensio on his goals.

Beating Man city 4-3, and leading them 4-1 at one point without VVD. Can Barca Guarantee leading Man city 4-1 in a game today?

Supercopa where the whole team was a shambles at a difficult time.

Good barometer for season that has been.

Again you cant answer what VVD brings and avoid it.

Terrible point about 'can Barca gtee leading City 4-1' ffs.

 

[vlad]

and you make claims and back them up? just go watch the super Copa loss, and watch Pique's own goal and how he worked with asensio on his goals.

Beating Man city 4-3, and leading them 4-1 at one point without VVD. Can Barca Guarantee leading Man city 4-1 in a game today?

Barca can guarante 4:0, without conceding

Just let valverde do the thinking, i hope he never leave that conservative approach barca have now


Edit: you are holding to much on 1st barca lost match this season, which is even not in la liga, its copa del rey with return leg, so much good things to talk about this season, you shouldnt be focused on that match. Liverpool cant beat swansea,they are not measurment for nothing... blowing 3:0 lead vs sevilla, they had coutinho back then

 

[BarcaMessi]

My argument depends on 1 game? that was just a recent example
Rakitić has played 20 la liga games while Pique has performed in 15. Yet we conceded only 9 goals which makes us the best defense of the Spanish league.
What do you think that's due to? I'd tip on the formation.
Also, check Valverde's last comments on Rak.

the 9 against is only in La Liga. you should already hand PSG the CL if you weight that much on domestic GF/GA.

The real GF/GA will come when playing against PSG, Man city, Man-u, Juve, Liverpool

 

[George_Costanza]

Came in expecting trash talk about Neymar, left unsatisfied and wondering why not change the thread name to miscellaneous thread.

 

[JamDav1982]

the 9 against is only in La Liga. you should already hand PSG the CL if you weight that much on domestic GF/GA.

The real GF/GA will come when playing against PSG, Man city, Man-u, Juve, Liverpool

Juve and Real not count?

Who of those teams have a better defence than Barca with Robero and Pique in it?

 

[BarcaMessi]

Supercopa where the whole team was a shambles at a difficult time.

Good barometer for season that has been.
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Again you cant answer what VVD brings and avoid it.

Terrible point about 'can Barca gtee leading City 4-1' ffs.

I just said not even Barca can NOT guarantee leading Man city 4-1. They did it without VVD. That should already make them a dark horse for CL. Adding VVD can not make liverpool worse FFS