Official Board Agree To CVC Deal

[serghei]

We were the first club to reach 1 billion

So we actually earned more for a good period

We earned slightly more, equal, or slightly less (I think the difference in + or - was very small with Madrid in times of economic fair weather, basically 2015-2019 in terms of revenue) and spent a lot more. Now we earn a lot less and still spend a lot more because contracts are signed for 5 years. You don't magically adjust contracts if you earn less this year.

Covid came, and Barto the clown had basically 0 margin for error the way he ran the club. He assumed things will be rosey on a permanent basis because he was incompetent. When history has thought us that periods of recession and economic crises can happen at any time. In those times, the better the president and the board, the better that club lands on its feet and keep operating at a good to decent level.

Every serious enterprise should have a "what if" strategy that has them covered. Bartomeu had none. Assume a crisis and make sure you have a solid way out. Bartomeu's way out was that he finished his term and it suddenly became somebody else's shit to sort out.

The smart leaders know this, Barto the clown was smashed in the face directly. Why? Because he overpaid an underachieving squad immensely. And what do we get to comfort us through this period of financial problems? The comforting thought that while Barto ruined the club, Madrid racked up 5 CLs in 8 years by spending less. Hilarious I kid you not.

 

[MTL_Barca]

We would be ok without Covid. Some high earners would still need to leave but nowhere near a mess we're in now.

Maybe, but that's what you can get for working like they did. A healthy club doesn't need inflated swap deals to balance the books, but we already did before covid. Covid strikes and suddenly we're fucked beyond imagination while apparently every other big club is fine. Not a coincidence.

And worst part is it didn't even help us win more titles, we were already getting obliterated in CL on a yearly basis and all the expansive signings flopped. Future of the club is fucked for nothing, well nothing except nice fat paychecks for flops like Braithwaite, Pjanic, Coutinho etc

 

[Porque]

We earned more and spend a lot more. Now we earn a lot less and still spend a lot more, because contracts are signed for 5 years. You don't magically adjust contracts if you earn less this year.

Covid came, and Barto the clown had basically 0 margin for error the way he ran the club. He assumed things will be rosey on a permanent basis because he was incompetent, when history has thought us that periods of recession and economic crises can happen at any time. In those times the better the president, the better their club lands on their feet and keep operating at a good level.

The smart leaders knew this, Barto the clown was smashed in the face directly.

This. Florentino built a stadium, left the Champions League to form the Super League, then later won the Champions League during the post-Covid crisis .

Sure he had favourable stadium loan terms, and a weird investment deal for the stadium to cover those favourable stadium loans, but the man spotted an opportunity in crisis. Meanwhile Bartomeu spotted... Gustavo Maia, and struggled to pay for him.

 

[serghei]

This. Florentino built a stadium, left the Champions League to form the Super League, then later won the Champions League during the post-Covid crisis .

Sure he had favourable stadium loan terms, and a weird investment deal for the stadium to cover those favourable stadium loans, but the man spotted an opportunity in crisis. Meanwhile Bartomeu spotted... Gustavo Maia, and struggled to pay for him.

I can only assume that Florentino had a decent, manageable wage bill and used a very generous bonusing scheme that rewarded the players for any extra income they brought with their performances, mainly money from UEFA, which got serious as you played finals and won them.

I bet the Madrid players got a lot of money in terms of bonuses for their CL wins, money which don't show in wage structure. That's how he got these players happy and competitive, hungry for winning CL. The alternative would be that their players were much less greedy and leeching than ours and actually cared more about winning CLs than getting rich for being humiliated every year.

But that is a bonus-type of payment. You don't win CL you remain without your wage, which based on reports, the base wages were nothing extraordinary. If anything some players were pretty underpaid in terms of base wage.

Apparently, our bonus-related wage details were some silly pointless clauses like games plays and shit like that. Even a nutless monkey would gone through those and effectively turned those bonuses into another form of fixed wage.

And then we have Barto's spending on Coutinho, Dembele and the likes. We didn't even get into that form of spending . Which is basically a new variety of shit, on top of the wage structure shit.

 

[serghei]

After such statements, specifics are needed. Or be silent. Messi, Suarez, Coutinho, Griezmann, Dembele, the highest paid players, have left. There are no stars left in the team. Where does this figure come from?

Delayed payments, that still have to be paid. Makes sense. Nothing else does.

During covid we got the players accepting for a delay in payments based on their contracts. But that money still counts as wage expenditure. Until the "legends" come and say that they give up on those 50m (depending on player probably) and take a one-time payment of 5m instead.

Or something like that. Which they won't because they are leechers.

The only way out, sort of, would be to come out and say, listen, Bartomeu was a terrorist, we can't pay you what he signed out for on behalf of FC Barcelona. We can pay 10% of that, so get this sum and sign off on the rest (don't know how it's done legally in regards to taxes and shit for those full contracts), clearing the club from this debt to you for good. So not a delay, but some players actually giving up a huge pile of money for the interests of the club.

 

[Messigician]

This. Florentino built a stadium, left the Champions League to form the Super League, then later won the Champions League during the post-Covid crisis .

Sure he had favourable stadium loan terms, and a weird investment deal for the stadium to cover those favourable stadium loans, but the man spotted an opportunity in crisis. Meanwhile Bartomeu spotted... Gustavo Maia, and struggled to pay for him.

Not really

Perez didn't lose prime Neymar like that, and it's a state funded stadium

Real Madrid are in the position to waste 80m on Jovic and 125m on hazard we aren't so lucky

 

[Porque]

Not really

Perez didn't lose prime Neymar like that, and it's a state funded stadium

Real Madrid are in the position to waste 80m on Jovic and 125m on hazard we aren't so lucky

You need a new gimmick mate.

 

[Messigician]

You need a new gimmick mate.

Not a gimmick just the voice of reason in this mad house

 

[Porque]

I imagine Bartomeu said the same while presenting Braithwaite's offer and contract.

 

[serghei]

Not a gimmick just the voice of reason in this mad house

Most of your controversial takes around here, and boy there are many, have at least a tiny bit of logic behind them. Except for this Bartomeu worshipping. Can't think of any sane reason why anyone would defend Bartomeu around here. Except trolling and having no better things to do with your time.

Maybe 3-4 years ago, sure, but, currently, the man got exposed big time as a certified moron, a rat, and an incompetent. And in 1-2 years things will probably get even clearer, as we will find out more astonishing things that are currently still unknown.

 

[ajnotkeith]

I agree. But selling De Jong gets you more money in the 1/4 rule. You can spend 25% of what you bring in. So if we sell him for 100m let's say, we can invest 25m in the squad in terms of wages. Plus other money from other deals, Coutinho 20m sale, maybe other sales if we can do it.

The thing is that if you spend another 2-3 years fighting with Tebas the moron, unable to invest much, then De Jong will be 28 by then. It's a better bet now to just sell him for big money if you can't challenge hard for the next few years. Also for him, as much as he likes Barca.

But I agree that the only way is to go with what we have, with minimum investments for a few years. Top 4 and dong better in CL like getting out of the groups and maybe with a bit of luck going in the quarters or something that can be achieved. Plus doing better in Copa del Rey.

I think selling Gavi is actually better on the books than FDJ.

FDJ's amortisation, which is substantial due to money spent on him, gets subtracted from his sale price, so we actually don't make that much profit. Especially if he is sold for around 70-80m. I don't know his amortisation but would assume you end up with less than 50m profit.

Whilst Gavi if sold for 50 is pure profit because he came through the academy. So there could be a reason why Gavi is sort of for sale right now.

 

[Temptation]

I think selling Gavi is actually better on the books than FDJ.

FDJ's amortisation, which is substantial due to money spent on him, gets subtracted from his sale price, so we actually don't make that much profit. Especially if he is sold for around 70-80m. I don't know his amortisation but would assume you end up with less than 50m profit.

Whilst Gavi if sold for 50 is pure profit because he came through the academy. So there could be a reason why Gavi is sort of for sale right now.

At this point, should just sell the one with the profile less required for the club.

 

[Porque]

Selling Pedri or Ansu is even better than selling Gavi.

We should sell all 3 and sign F. U. Tebas from Monterrey.

 

[Windhook]

From what i can find online we made 165 000 000 euros from tv rights in 2020/2021.

That's correct and it's, I believe, TV money from La Liga only as I read similar sum for LL TV rights distribution.

 

[serghei]

I think selling Gavi is actually better on the books than FDJ.

FDJ's amortisation, which is substantial due to money spent on him, gets subtracted from his sale price, so we actually don't make that much profit. Especially if he is sold for around 70-80m. I don't know his amortisation but would assume you end up with less than 50m profit.

Whilst Gavi if sold for 50 is pure profit because he came through the academy. So there could be a reason why Gavi is sort of for sale right now.

No, because Gavi would be just about the right age when we could realistically be back from this mess. Say in 2-3 years' time Gavi, Pedri, Ansu, Araujo, these guys could be experienced young superstars by then hopefully. That's the only good thing out of this. That we'll give relatively low-pressure and consistent time for these youngsters to become great players and lead a new generation for after we sort out this shit.

With De Jong, the main reason why we could sell him is that theoretically, his prime and peak should be right now. And now we're not in a position to give him a top chance for glory. With our hands tied behind our backs by Tebas and the other morons.

Also, if I understand well, our best bet to sign is the 1 to 4 rule. Nothing else. We're way on the minus in terms of the salary cap, so the best bet would be to sell the most expensive player we have (one who is not very very young but in his prime) and use a quarter of the money based on the 1 to 4 rule. Not done much documentation on it, but on paper, 1/4 out of 90-100m is a lot more than 1/4 out of 50m.

De Jong would be our best candidate for a sale if we go down that route. Not extremely young anymore, with a good rating in Europe, not a great fit for the club it seems. Even though I like him and think he's a fine lad and maybe even a future leader.