CatalinR10
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excuse me but everything I say is based on FACTS.
Ousmane Dembélé
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excuse me but everything I say is based on FACTS.
Potroh
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You see, this is a typical post of yours that essentially wouldn't worth an answer, but I try to be a gentleman, so I answer again:
- Yes, I used to be a coach, I could have gone much higher if I wanted to, but I did not. Coaching is not for everyone, sometimes the tasks of an elementary-school-teacher or a schoolmaster takes most of the energies and the actual footballing aspects remain behind. It's not for me.
Couple of years ago I was asked to coach the NT of my country but I refused. Politics, money, people who have power but they know nothing about football, some more politics... not my cup of tea.
But if you still doubt my past as a pro, be it your problem.
- Not a single word about IQ, because it is your MANIA. Your weapon to "constructively" chat about Dembele or someone else. The "IQ" definition of yours is lacking ANY human aspect, therefore I have nothing to add. I'd rather repeatedly ask you not to hurt any of them anymore. They deserve your respect, regardless your other personal thoughts.
Please do not get even lower into your agenda and saga!
I coached on the level that I wanted to. I assure you that coaches, good and professional coaches, do not differentiate anything according to the level they are working for.
Pure talent is the essence of everything in football, no sane coach will ever tell you otherwise.
The rest is diligent work, healthy life, some luck, but talent, hidden capabilities, gifted subconcious solutions win over anything else.
Specially at a club like Barca.
The higher level the club is on, the more talent is needed to fulfill aims and to serve a club.
I have never ever wrote here a word about Munir, Sandro, Deloufeu, A.Vidal, Samper or others, who are NOT talented enough for the club's level and aim. There was one single exception: namely Andre Gomes and Arda, who were jokes when it came to playing in the same team with Messi...
I've never met Dembele, so no idea if he is "dumb" or not.
But I've worked with enough footballers in my life to say that even if a boy is "dumb", he can be the best footballer on the planet.
The "dumbness" is your personal agenda, it's your vocabulary-tweak, your mania, thus it needs no further comments. Neither from me nor from any humanly thinking user.
No, unfortunately you have no idea where I'm "coming from".
You simply dislike Dembele, Arthur, Neymar, Semedo and others, for you personal reasons and therefore you take this obvious platform to spread your agenda, your opinion - that is respectable, but only up to the point, when it doesn't become too much and something that tells more about your own frustration than about the actual professional factors of the given players.
I do hope you sooner or later WILL STOP these childish personal attacks, be it towards myself or anyone else, because it leads nowhere.
Your own truth will not be strengthened by provoking others, questioning their sanity, their past, their connections to the game.
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henias
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First of all, it's clear he's an extremely raw talent. Especially for players of his age, they need alot of guidance from top players and coaches to be able to flourish.
Yeah certain things like poor touches or passing are not "directly" Valverde's fault but his mentality needs to be set straight. Do you honestly see Valverde rounding up the team, being strict on the players, giving them clear set of directions on where they should improve on? Dembele has showed alot of glimpses of his talent that is more than what majority of Barca players now could do, speed, unpredicatibility, flair, lethality. But what keeps making him lose consistency? It's no coincidence you have a world class fraud making the team a circus show. Players just come on the field to show their talent and then go home when the deed is done. Gaffer-de applauds you if you do well, show disgust or bench you if you don't. So what have they learnt?
Even more so when he is in a team that hardly moves, and then expect him to play possession football? Compared to Dortmund, he comes to a team completely different and you have a clown of a coach. Put 2 and 2 together. It's not that hard to understand.
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xXKonan
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BBZ needed a new player to vent on after Neymar left and he chose Dembele, simple as that.
He spent the entire time when Neymar was here to undermine him for his talent and convince people he was a fraud and once he left he needed a new punching bag so he got Dembele instead. Just add in Arthur or any young talent we bring in that doesn't fit his criteria of what he wants and you get BBZ.
There are legit criticisms to be made of Ney and Dembele but then there are BBZ levels of just of trying to hard to hate on someone for the sake of hating them.
He spent the entire time when Neymar was here to undermine him for his talent and convince people he was a fraud and once he left he needed a new punching bag so he got Dembele instead. Just add in Arthur or any young talent we bring in that doesn't fit his criteria of what he wants and you get BBZ.
There are legit criticisms to be made of Ney and Dembele but then there are BBZ levels of just of trying to hard to hate on someone for the sake of hating them.
Don t know how did you get this result.
Last year: 1673 minutes/ 8 goals/ 5 assists
128 min for goal/assist
All together La liga: 2599 minutes/ 11 goals/12 assists
113 min for goal/assist
michelco
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Ah, my bad, i forgot to add the assists when calculating the goals/assists per minutes lol. gotta say, thats pretty decent stats then. why are people so hard on him?
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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Why are people so hard on him? Because they forget to add the assists !
BBZ measured his IQ with a special home made device. After that he was deemed unworthy of wearing Barca shirt.
Afromaticz
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Lacks a first touch and has zero ball control whatsoever they said
FinBarcelonafan
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He needs to come up with some other move than the "fake shot". Is there any video where he does not fake shot? I feel like he does it way too often.
Imagine trying to use a YouTube video to explain why you rate a player.
Every player looks like a Ballon D'or contender in highlight comps.
Take a gander at this Adama video for instance:
[youtube]2s1UvSc6sCE[/youtube]
Surely better than Messi...
Afromaticz
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I agree the guy is just too quick..defenders know exactly what he's gonna do but they still cant defend it
Afromaticz
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Imagine trying to use a YouTube video to explain why you rate a player.
Every player looks like a Ballon D'or contender in highlight comps.
Take a gander at this Adama video for instance:
[youtube]2s1UvSc6sCE[/youtube]
Surely better than Messi...
I've had the pleasure of seeing Dembele play live at the Camp Nou on more than one occasion and yes he's not the finished article still very raw and lacking in maturity when it comes to some of his decision making BUT one think that he definitely has in abundance is pure talent and the guy has a wonderful first touch aswell
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