Pep Guardiola
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khaled_a_d
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Happy Birthday Pep ,a true Barca legend
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Mike the Knife
Sampaoli on Guardiola:
Es un revolucionario, un valiente, que trata de instalar su idea en cualquier sitio, incluso en Alemania, algo antinatural. Ese es el gran triunfo de Pep, no tenerle miedo a nada. Los valientes no abundan en el fútbol ni en la vida. Para mí es un ejemplo de vida; más allá de su manera de sentir el fútbol, por su valentía.
Es un revolucionario, un valiente, que trata de instalar su idea en cualquier sitio, incluso en Alemania, algo antinatural. Ese es el gran triunfo de Pep, no tenerle miedo a nada. Los valientes no abundan en el fútbol ni en la vida. Para mí es un ejemplo de vida; más allá de su manera de sentir el fútbol, por su valentía.
TornAndFrayed
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i feel charitable tonight so
1) The context of the quote was back in the summer 2014, when the mood was particularly gloomy after rm won the copa and CL, atletico won the league and never lost to us in 6 games, messi had fitness issues, etc. Trying to raise expectations sky-high was certainly not the kind of praise that barca or lucho needed especially now that we know the latter's character better. Quote felt even more ridiculous in january, of course. And then barca won the treble in a more dominant way than 2009. That's funny. This season barca has a very good chance of improving on 09-10, so atm pep's quote definitely still stands
2) You don't seem to have grasped the meaning of "up until now". Pep coached for four full seasons, one for Enrique. Should lucho win another treble, he'd definitely have surpassed guardiola "up to then"... and if after that barca didn't win anything for two years guardiola's time would have been better in the end. You seem to think my conclusion was permanent while it obviously can't be.
3) i mentioned the supercopa that we lost against athletic as a possible reason why you'd consider lucho's time 'til now inferior to guardiola's first 18 months or so.
don't know where your comment on guardiola not playing the supercopa in his first season came from. Only reason i can think of is you somehow assume lucho has ? He didn't. Neither played the supercopa in their first season. At the beginning of 2nd year pep won and lucho lost.
4) You may not know this but punctuating every other sentence with "..." is very passive-aggressive... Especially when initiating a boring discussion based on misunderstood premises... ... ...
As this is completely OT i suppose it will be moved from here, sorry about that i guess
El Flaco
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1) Yes, I'm very well aware of how the mood among culés were in general back then, I disagree Messi had problem with fitness (although it's not the topic). Once again, winning a treble is the hardest to achieve in football no matter what... It's subjective depending of which treble someone prefer, but I suggest we'd appreciate that Barca is the only club in the world to do it twice... Perhaps it looks very promising for us atm, but it could be said about the 2009-10 season as well at the same period. Pep's quote isn't true yet.
2) Yes, that's why I said it's way too early for saying Lucho has surpassed Pep when the latter spent more seasons at us and it's not fair to the latter. I never said Lucho won't surpass Pep at all or so but there's rather he hasn't yet. Lucho may do it, but let's wait and judge until then.
3) The supercopa is pretty much irrelevent because neither Lucho or Pep actually the competition in their respective debut season. That's why I asked when you even mentioned it...
2) Yes, that's why I said it's way too early for saying Lucho has surpassed Pep when the latter spent more seasons at us and it's not fair to the latter. I never said Lucho won't surpass Pep at all or so but there's rather he hasn't yet. Lucho may do it, but let's wait and judge until then.
3) The supercopa is pretty much irrelevent because neither Lucho or Pep actually the competition in their respective debut season. That's why I asked when you even mentioned it...
TornAndFrayed
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1) & 2) so you really didn't get what up to now meant, fair enough
3) Missing a verb there... 1.5 years in Pep had won the supercopa, lucho didn't. Clear enough ?
'cause I don't ? stop preaching.
3) Missing a verb there... 1.5 years in Pep had won the supercopa, lucho didn't. Clear enough ?
'cause I don't ? stop preaching.
El Flaco
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Well, he's actually right there.
JamDav1982
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Confirmed as Man City boss from next season.
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Flavia
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Yep. Yaya Toure probably searching for a club now.
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