Pep Guardiola

[Richard.H]

How you explain it already passed a decade since the last pure tiki taka - possesion based with no couter attack variation (like Lucho's Barca) - style last won CL?

First off, this season they have played much less tiki-taka than before. More counter attacking and incorporating crosses. The pure tiki-taka of barca has been gone since Pep has left Bayern imo. Second, pep overthought this tie. Why the fuk he started Sterling i dont know

 

[El Gato]

Happiest day of the season TBH

 

[Messigician]

Pep sucks

 

[mc_lovin]

Chelsea is not a team that should win the CL by BBZs standards either.

 

[Messigician]

I wouldn't take him at Barca now.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Was sure he will win it. Pep wont sleep tonight.

 

[BBZ8800]

My opinion for years is:
1. Pep's style is the best style in the world for league championship. There is no pressure and a technical quality is usually a key against weaker league opponents
2. On the other hand, KO matches are way more than technique and often a mix of: technique, bullying and a mental strength.
Pep had around 20-25% away KO wins even at Barca. So, even a GOAT team struggled under pressure in away KO boxing matches.
Over the years, in lots of sports, my opinion is that choir boys can win only when they are way better than opponents or when everything goes in their favor.
Whenever things are not perfect, choir boys don't have an answer and fight in them.
Barca won titles only when we were the best by far.
Have we ever "steal" a CL when we played bad? No = because choir boys don't have guts and a mental strength to steal wins.
Pep's City is FC good guys.
I mean, fkng good guy KDB who never fights. Or feminine Sterling. Or Jesus, Bernardo, lol.
Pep always trade aggression and fighters for smart, technical guys.
And on nights like this, it backfires.
3. Further, again playing 460 without central forwards to get more possession.
4. Playing without a pivot to field 6 creative midfielders (Iniestas), lol.
He is trading attackers and defenders for even more technique and possession.
5. For the end, what is Pep's plan B?
His plan was his usual plan A mixed with desperate crosses on midget strikers Aguero, Jesus and Sterling.
The same as when Barca crossed to Messi and Bojan.

All in all, a classical Pep.
Goat of league titles.
Meh in Europe.
He was able to win due to prime Messi and Xaviniesta.
Without them, this is just upgraded Del Bosque's 460 with 6 midfielders, zero leaders, zero fighters and no plan B.

** btw, have people seen faces of Cities players in the last 10 minutes?
They had the same empty stare like Messi, Busi and our guys when we are losing, something like: We are losing, I don't have any faith, I have zero clue or faith how to turn this match around.

 

[Porque]

Dare we say that Pep just met a better tactician today. Tuchel beat him in the FA Cup Semi Final and he beat him today.

I don't think we should over-analyse Peps tactics and write an obituary on the death of Tiki-Taka over this game however. He reached the CL final FFS. Usually if the issue is tactical then you go out in 2 leg games. This year City overcome that.

But a one-off 90 minute game (or 97 minute game) and you are going to put it down to the death of his style? Nope. Too many other factors and pressures to solely put it on that. Even though I know alot want to because of Pep spending more time managing this Oil team than Barcelona.

 

[Messigician]

BBZ spitting FACTS

 

[messi2140]

My opinion for years is:
1. Pep's style is the best style in the world for league championship. There is no pressure and a technical quality is usually a key against weaker league opponents
2. On the other hand, KO matches are way more than technique and often a mix of: technique, bullying and a mental strength.
Pep had around 20-25% away KO wins even at Barca. So, even a GOAT team struggled under pressure in away KO boxing matches.
Over the years, in lots of sports, my opinion is that choir boys can win only when they are way better than opponents or when everything goes in their favor.
Whenever things are not perfect, choir boys don't have an answer and fight in them.
Barca won titles only when we were the best by far.
Have we ever "steal" a CL when we played bad? No = because choir boys don't have guts and a mental strength to steal wins.
Pep's City is FC good guys.
I mean, fkng good guy KDB who never fights. Or femine Sterling. Or Jesus, Bernardo, lol.
Pep always trade aggression and fighters for smart, technical guys.
And on nights like this, it backfires.
3. Further, again playing 460 without central forwards to get more possession.
4. Playing against a pivot to field 6 creative midfielders (Iniestas), lol.
He is trading attackers and defenders for even more technique and possession.
5. For the end, what is Pep's plan B?
His plan was his usual plan A mixed with desperate crosses on midget strikers Aguero, Jesus and Sterling.
The same as when Barca crossed to Messi and Bojan.

All in all, a classical Pep.
Goat of league titles.
Meh in Europe.
He was able to win due to prime Messi and Xaviniesta.
Without them, this is just upgraded Del Bosque's 460 with 6 midfielders, zero leaders, zero fighters and no plan B.

** btw, have people seen faces of Cities players in the last 10 minutes?
They had the same empty stare like Messi, Busi and our guys when we are losing, something like: We are losing, I don't have any faith, I have zero clue or faith how to turn this match around.

This is not what I signed up for. I was expecting a trilogy

 

[KingLeo10]

My opinion for years is:
1. Pep's style is the best style in the world for league championship. There is no pressure and a technical quality is usually a key against weaker league opponents
2. On the other hand, KO matches are way more than technique and often a mix of: technique, bullying and a mental strength.
Pep had around 20-25% away KO wins even at Barca. So, even a GOAT team struggled under pressure in away KO boxing matches.
Over the years, in lots of sports, my opinion is that choir boys can win only when they are way better than opponents or when everything goes in their favor.
Whenever things are not perfect, choir boys don't have an answer and fight in them.
Barca won titles only when we were the best by far.
Have we ever "steal" a CL when we played bad? No = because choir boys don't have guts and a mental strength to steal wins.
Pep's City is FC good guys.
I mean, fkng good guy KDB who never fights. Or feminine Sterling. Or Jesus, Bernardo, lol.
Pep always trade aggression and fighters for smart, technical guys.
And on nights like this, it backfires.
3. Further, again playing 460 without central forwards to get more possession.
4. Playing against a pivot to field 6 creative midfielders (Iniestas), lol.
He is trading attackers and defenders for even more technique and possession.
5. For the end, what is Pep's plan B?
His plan was his usual plan A mixed with desperate crosses on midget strikers Aguero, Jesus and Sterling.
The same as when Barca crossed to Messi and Bojan.

All in all, a classical Pep.
Goat of league titles.
Meh in Europe.
He was able to win due to prime Messi and Xaviniesta.
Without them, this is just upgraded Del Bosque's 460 with 6 midfielders, zero leaders, zero fighters and no plan B.

** btw, have people seen faces of Cities players in the last 10 minutes?
They had the same empty stare like Messi, Busi and our guys when we are losing, something like: We are losing, I don't have any faith, I have zero clue or faith how to turn this match around.

We wanted a trilogy and you giving us sparknotes. Lad.

 

[serghei]

Dare we say that Pep just met a better tactician today. Tuchel beat him in the FA Cup Semi Final and he beat him today.

Don't know if a better tactician, but Tuchel has his number so far. Also has Zidane's number . And probably Klopp's number too.

And PSG had the guy as manager . And they sacked him because the stars were lazy.

 

[Xaviniesta]

[Opta] 3 - Thomas Tuchel is just the second manager to record three consecutive wins in all competitions against Pep Guardiola (excl. Barcelona B), after fellow German J?rgen Klopp did so in 2018 with Liverpool. Masterminds.

 

[serghei]

My opinion for years is:
1. Pep's style is the best style in the world for league championship. There is no pressure and a technical quality is usually a key against weaker league opponents
2. On the other hand, KO matches are way more than technique and often a mix of: technique, bullying and a mental strength.
Pep had around 20-25% away KO wins even at Barca. So, even a GOAT team struggled under pressure in away KO boxing matches.
Over the years, in lots of sports, my opinion is that choir boys can win only when they are way better than opponents or when everything goes in their favor.
Whenever things are not perfect, choir boys don't have an answer and fight in them.
Barca won titles only when we were the best by far.
Have we ever "steal" a CL when we played bad? No = because choir boys don't have guts and a mental strength to steal wins.
Pep's City is FC good guys.
I mean, fkng good guy KDB who never fights. Or feminine Sterling. Or Jesus, Bernardo, lol.
Pep always trade aggression and fighters for smart, technical guys.
And on nights like this, it backfires.
3. Further, again playing 460 without central forwards to get more possession.
4. Playing without a pivot to field 6 creative midfielders (Iniestas), lol.
He is trading attackers and defenders for even more technique and possession.
5. For the end, what is Pep's plan B?
His plan was his usual plan A mixed with desperate crosses on midget strikers Aguero, Jesus and Sterling.
The same as when Barca crossed to Messi and Bojan.

All in all, a classical Pep.
Goat of league titles.
Meh in Europe.
He was able to win due to prime Messi and Xaviniesta.
Without them, this is just upgraded Del Bosque's 460 with 6 midfielders, zero leaders, zero fighters and no plan B.

** btw, have people seen faces of Cities players in the last 10 minutes?
They had the same empty stare like Messi, Busi and our guys when we are losing, something like: We are losing, I don't have any faith, I have zero clue or faith how to turn this match around.

Some good points, but how in the world is a CL final now being "meh in Europe"?

 

[Morten]

In fairness, you cant always win, this is Peps only defeat in a final since 10/11 season.