Premier League 2018/19

[devo901]

In summer Pep should leave in Mancity back to Barca and bring Sterling, kevin de bruyne, or who ever fits in our team. Time to end this misery of EV who acts uninspiring & weak like an magistrate official 2 years before retirement.

 

[Xaviniesta]

Looks like Liverpool can focus easily on CL and PL from now on

depends. i reckon they want to go undefeated in the PL

 

[devo901]

The dickriding is so nauseating. You two (mainly serghei really) could at least ease off on that.

Liverpool haven't had a single crisis, be it institutional, injury or otherwise.

They had crisis .... lets recap: Crisis nr1.
The loss of CL final vs. Real: They dominated the first 20 min, then Ramos wins through ippon vs. Sarah - the team is shocked and insecure, followed up by an elbow check vs. Karius keeper and the whole thing ran down the drain ....

RM did not beat Liverpool as better football team - they showed them on all fronts how to win a fight, they mentally destroyed them .... the fact that Liverpool was resurrected was Klopp (because he knows how to revive underdogs that were beaten badly from the Dortmund days) was a HUGE accomplishment from Klopp.

Crisis nr2.
9 months later - they are 0-3 down in the CL semisfinal (although they have the super duper defender vvd! and salah and maneh!) and in the return game they have to score 4 goals ! but hey, no Maneh, no Salah, both of them scored probably 80% of their goals in that season... and you say this is not a crisis?

well yes they overcame this shituation with luck / courage and a bit of barca-help ... but neverthe less this was a super tough situation...

 

[utility73]

City have had alot of injuries this season and you can't blame Pep for that.

You can definitely blame him for awful squad management when it comes to defense.

Starting this season City had one good CB, being Laporte. Otamendi is a horror show when it comes to actual defending. And having to call up part time retired grandpa Fernandinho to play as CB says it all. They bought new full backs with at least Cancelo definitely having class but Pep keeps preferring the pair of imbeciles Walker and Mendy. Just compare those clowns to TAA and Robertson, the latter wreak havoc on the defense of their opponents while the former sabotage their own.

Plus, when it comes to actual goalkeeping, Ederson and Bravo are not that good, too.
City would need to shop at least one or better two competent CBs and a class goalie but Pep being Pep he probably doesn‘t even consider his defense needing improvement. That is probably his biggest blind spot.

And then with this kind of personnel Pep really thought it would be a good idea to defend a one goal lead and park the bus against Wolverhampton. No surprise that what happened in and around City‘s box looked like bad slapstick comedy at times.

 

[barcafan161]

Race is over so maybe city can focus on CL as that’s the one the owners badly want anyway...Liverpool are just too dominant

 

[El Gato]

[MENTION=26741]devo901[/MENTION]
With respect, I don't think you know the definition of crisis.

 

[Nello]

Pep is burnt but his teams are dead after 3 years.

He pushes his teams mantally and physically to 120%.
He can't do it after 3 years.
His players are motivated at first, they aren't anymore.
His core is young when he comes and 4 years older and physcally drained when he leaves...
Plus the opponents are figuring out his tricks after 5-6 matches in person against his teams.
After 3 seasons, majority of league teams (at Barca and City) seem to learn how to stop his attacks and how to efficiently kill him on counters.

He is at -17 currently.
He has nice chances to sink to -25 or -30 points behind Liverpool till the end of a season, lol.

As others have said, he will never take a job at a smaller club.
He will now go to Juve, Psg or Quatar and continue his "domination".
To some extent, he is statpadding trophies at the biggest clubs like CR7.

You can hail Pep as much as you want, but he is some sort of a coward who is only coaching the richest clubs.
He has never came even close to winning a CL without Messi.
And his teams sink like Titanic after 3 years.

Very few coaches can keep their teams super motivated and dominating for more than 3-4 years to be fair. Part of what makes Sir Alex so special. Your hate for Pep isn't hard to spot, not sure if you could have used more negative hyperboles and qualifiers in your argumentation, lol.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Wolfe talking bollocks as per usual.

We've had injuries these past 2 freaking seasons you muppet.

Alisson was injured for the first 6 weeks this season.
Fabinho is currently injured and out for around 2 months
Wijnaldum has had injuries these past 2 years and is recovering from an injury
Lovren has had lots of injuries over the past 2 years and is currently injured
Keita was injured for the last 4 months of last season and bits of this season.
Bobby has had his injuries these past 2 years, particularly is eye injury.
Salah was as you know was injured and had a few minor injuries this season.
Gomez was injured for the last 6 months of last season and parts of this season.
Henderson has had his injuries
The Ox was injured all of last season and is out for a few weeks now.
Lallana has been injury prone for the past 2 years
Origi had his injuries
Matip who has been exceptional since the start of 2019 is injured.

The only ones not to suffer injuries have been TAA, VVD and Robertson and even they have needed managing.

So stop talking bullshit about us and not suffering crisis of injuries.

 

[serghei]

[MENTION=928]AnfieldEd[/MENTION], forgive our fellow premium member Wolfe. He doesn't like Liverpool.

Even the best forumists are susceptible to bias (no doubt he is one of the best members of Barcaforum). Don't hold it against him.

Those who think Liverpool depend on 1 player are clueless though. They can seamlessly replace Salah (their best player without a shred of doubt imo) with Shaqiri and still trash a team like Barcelona 4-0 no questions asked.

 

[AnfieldEd]

It's funny the narrative the media play out regarding city and their injuries which is true. But we've suffered as well.

 

[serghei]

It's funny the narrative the media play out regarding city and their injuries which is true. But we've suffered as well.

Yea, the fact that the this goes unnoticed is another testament of this undeniable fact. You guys have struck gold with Klopp. I hope every Liverpool fan realizes this. You've just hired one of the best managers of all time and you need ton hold on to him for as long as humanly possible.

 

[serghei]

Also, I forgot, top comment that, showing a serious injury-list that, just because it has gone unnoticed through expert management, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[MENTION=26741]devo901[/MENTION], why did you like that crap BBZ comment? Just curious.

 

[Alik]

It would, but Pep has always been one to take these easy way out. Going to a club like Juve and stacking more league titles is not something that is going to impress me anymore.

I would like to see him try and bring a club like A.C. Milan back to relevance or even start a new era at Atletico Madrid. Anything other than another safe, comfy job at a mega-rich, dynasty of a club.

He doesn't have to leave and City would be fools make him go.

If he leaves, I would like to see him back at Barça first and foremost. If not, yeah, any team other than PSG, Juve and Bayern (and Real obviously).

 

[El Gato]

Wolfe talking bollocks as per usual.

We've had injuries these past 2 freaking seasons you muppet.

Alisson was injured for the first 6 weeks this season.
Fabinho is currently injured and out for around 2 months
Wijnaldum has had injuries these past 2 years and is recovering from an injury
Lovren has had lots of injuries over the past 2 years and is currently injured
Keita was injured for the last 4 months of last season and bits of this season.
Bobby has had his injuries these past 2 years, particularly is eye injury.
Salah was as you know was injured and had a few minor injuries this season.
Gomez was injured for the last 6 months of last season and parts of this season.
Henderson has had his injuries
The Ox was injured all of last season and is out for a few weeks now.
Lallana has been injury prone for the past 2 years
Origi had his injuries
Matip who has been exceptional since the start of 2019 is injured.

The only ones not to suffer injuries have been TAA, VVD and Robertson and even they have needed managing.

So stop talking bullshit about us and not suffering crisis of injuries.

Uh, I disagree with me 'talking bollocks'? I didn't say you haven't had injuries. I said you haven't had a crisis and gave injuries as an example of one. And these do not need to happen to any Tom, Dick and Harry you have for you to be able to say you've suffered too. You mean to tell me missing any 2 CMs of your squad at a time is a crisis? Mass injuries to interchangeable faces who add similar qualities aren't a crisis to you because as I said, you have a relatively well constructed squad where most guys contribute similar things. And your injuries didn't even happen at one time.

Your crisis would be having a leader injured for the long term, somebody who is indeed irreplaceable, unlike most of your squad who frankly you hardly miss when they're out. Of all you mentioned, probably only Matip's injuries were a significant problem since you were semi-forced to play Lovren (which ultimately got abandoned because Gomez is good enough) which cost you many results. Salah being out was proven to not nearly be as much of an issue as it would have been had he not played at all vs RM in his beastly 1st season, especially not now that Origi took the next step and Shaqiri is good enough.

Klopp has done well to minimise your vulnerabilities and him + your players handle media well so far. But you're not invulnerable. Many games have shown that. Now imagine any combination of VVD +- Milner, Mane, Trent are out for 2-3 months in the middle of a season. You would struggle, just as any team missing their leaders would. And most teams have had this happen, you have not. + you've somewhat prioritised 1 or 2 competitions max over going all out on all fronts. Motivation of regaining that elusive league is a big thing for getting these players to gel and perform as consistently as they are. These aren't non-factors.

 

[Centauri B]

depends. i reckon they want to go undefeated in the PL

Can only hope they are that stupid.