Premier League 2021/2022

[Xaviniesta]

I don't think they played many games when Pep was at Bayern did they? Maybe like 6?

I personally rate Klopp higher when there's an average squad at disposal.

their h2h record in detail: https://www.transfermarkt.us/pep-guardiola/leistungsdatenDetail/trainer/5672/trainer_id/118

4L 4W for both in germany

they have a very even record

 

[Sterlingfan2000]

Klopp spent 200M and Pep 1 billion

 

[Morten]

We also need to look at the xH2H record between Pep and Klopp to find out who is truly better.

 

[Cule For Life]

Pep vs Klopp: 22 games 9W-4D-9L
H2H record still tied.

Now imagine Klopp's record had he had an unlimited budget to spend 100m on the likes of grealish or if he managed a team like bayern in bayernliga

Klopp is a underdog manager something going tells me he'd win titles but he wouldn't be as successful as Pep at the top. Look at another under dog manager like Mou 12 years Chelsea x2, RM and United only 4 league titles 0 CL.

 

[malvolio]

I don't think they played many games when Pep was at Bayern did they? Maybe like 6?

I personally rate Klopp higher when there's an average squad at disposal.

Can't rate Guardiola managing an average squad when he hasn't had the chance to either.

 

[JamDav1982]

To fair to Pep City were 4th the season before he took over and only made CL on goal difference while won one title in four years.

The spending is a bit misleading when Liverpool have spent so well and had players like TAA emerge.

Supposedly Klopp was no all that much in favour of signing Robertson/Salah etc but the Liverpool transfer committee pushed them through.

Klopp is amazing but not as simple as just comparing money spent.

 

[Cule For Life]

Klopp spent 200M and Pep 1 billion

Oh yeah I forgot he's still spending Coutinho money right? VVD 75m, Alison 70m, Keita 60m, Thaigo 30m, Shaq 20m, Konate 40m, Jota 40m, Alex 40m. Coutinho money still going strong.

 

[Xaviniesta]

we'll never know. maybe if he takes the german NT job. but i think germany's squad will be very average by then

klopp has got the very best of average players and he's taken players with potential and turned them into superstars. he also doesn't seem to have a weird personality that would get him into zlatan-pep conflicts with non "school-boy" players

nothing suggests he wouldn't be as succesful at the top besides the demotivation of players after succesful cycles.

 

[Jadentheman]

Oh yeah I forgot he's still spending Coutinho money right? VVD 75m, Alison 70m, Keita 60m, Thaigo 30m, Shaq 20m, Konate 40m, Jota 40m, Alex 40m. Coutinho money still going strong.

Coutinho sell was the biggest win for Liverpool.

 

[Xaviniesta]

Oh yeah I forgot he's still spending Coutinho money right? VVD 75m, Alison 70m, Keita 60m, Thaigo 30m, Shaq 20m, Konate 40m, Jota 40m, Alex 40m. Coutinho money still going strong.

Pep's City: 1.026b spent / 341m sold (6 seasons)

Klopp's Liv: 532m spent / 400m sold (7 seasons)


in other words, pep is a chequebook manager and klopp is every club president's wet dream

 

[stb_1]

People forget that Klopp has Liverpool and Anfield. Liverpool are a huge team with huge fan base. Anfield atmosphere literally wins them games + refs give them decisions that City doesn't get.

Btw

I rank both managers equal as the two best in the world, 1a and 1b.

 

[BBZ8800]

bad day for [MENTION=16942]BBZ8800[/MENTION].

Pep managed to not lose v mighty, physical beasts Pool.

Technically superior yet mentally weak teams don't crumble in league matches or in group stages CL, because no matter what happens, they still have a lot of games to neutralize the defeat and they will usually manage to do it due to their technical superiority and their league history in previous seasons.

On the other hand, when they come to CL quarters KO matches = well, just watch majority of Pep's City ties and you'll understand.

Even Mats is rarely crumbling in La Liga.
But when he plays in a key CL KO match or for a German NT team, he is another person.

 

[KingLeo10]

Technically superior yet mentally weak teams don't crumble in league matches or in group stages CL, because no matter what happens, they still have a lot of games to neutralize the defeat and they will usually manage to do it due to their technical superiority and their league history in previous seasons.

On the other hand, when they come to CL quarters KO matches = well, just watch majority of Pep's City ties and you'll understand.

Even Mats is rarely crumbling in La Liga.
But when he plays in a key CL KO match or for a German NT team, he is another person.

Pep has accomplished much more in Europe and in key moments than MATS ever will What a weird comparison.

 

[Ode to Django]

I'd have Rafa Benitez over klopp and pep

 

[Ode to Django]

and Mick Mcarthy