Premier League 24/25
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Yeah, but what if it's thanks to Raph scoring the winning goal and becoming MOTM?
The Fati fanboys have hated him since he joined, they wanted to replace him with n i c o, now they're hyping the "ronaldinho regen" who can't beat Dinamo Zagreb.
Dead silent when they have one of their many bad matches.
So, who's the next one gonna be?
Obviously, any statistics need to be looked at in context. For example, the fact that a conventional Getafe striker makes more tackles and interceptions, performs more pressing actions and covers more distance than Raphinha does not mean that this Getafe player is better than Raphinha without the ball.
Why? Because the team of Raphinha (Barcelona) and Getafe play different football. I think you know what I mean.
But we can try to compare Salah and Raphinha as they play in teams that like to dominate, possess the ball, press, etc.
So, if we compare the performance of Salah and Raphinha in terms of the number of attempted tackles, interceptions, as well as the number of successful attempts to tackle and interceptions, then Raphinha’s performance is 2 times better.
If we look at the statistics on the distance covered (unfortunately, I only have access to indicators in the Champions League), then Raphinha covers an average of 13 meters more distances per minute. Yes, statistics on the intensity with which you cover the distance are much more informative. Yes, besides, we do not have public data on how many kilometers of this distance were covered when playing on defense. But such figures are not publicly available.
However, based on what we have on hand - statistics on the number of attempted tackles, interceptions and the percentage of success in the number of tackles, interceptions, statistics on distance covered + our observation of matches - we can conclude that without the ball in defense, Raphinha is much more effective than Salah.
Birdy
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Shit source. The way they calculate percentile is dubous and has been claimed already by many.
I give you that Raphina works more in defence.
Still won't prove the point the other guy was making
You call every source that points out the absurdity of your claim - garbage.
Cut the crap. Give me any sources - Opta, whoscored, fbref, etc. Take any of those sources and double-check them. Raphinha is miles ahead of Salah in terms of defensive work. What you are saying is ridiculous.
Birdy
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Merely saying not to look at the percentile from fbref.
Woeful players look wonderful by looking at that particular metric from that database.
Simple
Advanced stats is an additional tool along with visual preview to evaluate a player/team.
Whichever source you take - it will show you that Raphinha is miles ahead of Salah in terms of defensive play. And visual viewing of Liverpool and Barcelona games will point that out as well.
fbref is a reputable source. And if I'm not mistaken they are actively involved with Opta. And Opta is probably the most reputable analytics company.
Anyway you can bring me any resource and try to prove that Salah is just as good defensively as Raphinha.
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