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[messi2140]

Well, it hurts.
I lost another couple of years with that game.
But at the end, nothing changes much, i'll always support my club through good and bad days.

I'll be honest man , I don't have anything against PSG. But when you have these fucking muppets like Jair and Lettuce peddling these hilarious narratives or provoking people with garbage stats , then you will have expect these kind of responses when they get knocked out in such a hilarious manner.

 

[messi2140]

Damn I'm on a roll.
[MENTION=19661]Jair Ventura[/MENTION]

 

[Newcomer]

The responses are fine. Madrid got the same treatment pretty much everywhere yesterday.

I'm hurt by PSG. That sucks.

 

[El Gato]

That was a legit pen . His hand wasn't even close to his body and he didn't shoot from 1-2 meters away from him.

Bollocks, yes it was. He's jumping. Very harsh to call these. As close to a natural position as you can get without obviously obstructing path of a direct shot. Otamendi penalty was a far better example of what constitutes such penalty, not this one.

That said, doesn't matter at all. Should have NEVER ever ever let them in within a goal of advancing.

 

[Leo_Messi]

Bollocks, yes it was. He's jumping. Very harsh to call these. As close to a natural position as you can get without obviously obstructing path of a direct shot. Otamendi penalty was a far better example of what constitutes such penalty, not this one.

That said, doesn't matter at all. Should have NEVER ever ever let them in within a goal of advancing.

Jumping while imitating a fucking scarecrow (and blocking a shot on goal in the penalty area) is not a natural position. Stone cold penalty. Confirmed by VAR and later Skomina. No two ways about it. Had his arm (s) been in a natural position (down his body) it would not have been given. There is a reason why defenders tend to have their arms behind the back in the penalty box for this very reason. Not to give a referee the opportunity to give a penalty if hit by the ball. Very simple.

 

[Jair Ventura]

Bollocks, yes it was. He's jumping. Very harsh to call these. As close to a natural position as you can get without obviously obstructing path of a direct shot. Otamendi penalty was a far better example of what constitutes such penalty, not this one.

That said, doesn't matter at all. Should have NEVER ever ever let them in within a goal of advancing.

It was quite the bottle job.

 

[malvolio]

why the fuck are people crying over psg getting a penalty against them?! they get like 100 a season in the farmers league and nobody bats an eyelid. suddenly we have to feel sorry for these corrupt cunts when justice is served to them.

 

[serghei]

Lol, people are actually debating the penalty? As far as hand ball penalties go (which are generally not as easy to evaluate), it's one of the most clear ones I've seen lately.

The ref saw what happened on the images and gave the pen accordingly. It's pretty standard for these types of cases.

 

[El Gato]

Jumping while imitating a fucking scarecrow (and blocking a shot on goal in the penalty area) is not a natural position. Stone cold penalty. Confirmed by VAR and later Skomina. No two ways about it.

He's not actively working to block the shot with an illegal part of his body. Arms are moving with the momentum of the rest of his body and he's even keeping them down. Natural position when going up for a block. Nonsense to call this stonewall and you'd be spouting your hyperboles all over the forum if it was the other way calling UEFA mafia etc. Bottom line is the law needs revisiting if this is what the referees adhere to to be frank.
Referring to Skomina as an authority on this after being part of a salty campaign on this forum over Tadić offside call just takes the cake

Doesn't matter anyway. PSG are out. Deserve to be out. Tuchel should probably get another year to correct this, but difficult to tell what you can do to make sure it doesn't happen. Maybe give them a difficult draw?

 

[serghei]

He's not actively working to block the shot with an illegal part of his body. Arms are moving with the momentum of the rest of his body and he's even keeping them down. Natural position when going up for a block. Nonsense to call this stonewall and you'd be spouting your hyperboles all over the forum if it was the other way calling UEFA mafia etc.
Referring to Skomina as an authority on this after being part of a salty campaign on this forum over Tadić offside call just takes the cake

Doesn't matter anyway. PSG are out. Deserve to be out. Tuchel should probably get another year to correct this, but difficult to tell what you can do to make sure it doesn't happen. Maybe give them a difficult draw?

And you know this how? Read his mind? All we know is that he has his hand away from the body, and blocks a chance for the opponent with his hand. Also, it's not a bounce from another part of the body, or even a close range shot.

 

[Newcomer]

why the fuck are people crying over psg getting a penalty against them?! they get like 100 a season in the farmers league and nobody bats an eyelid. suddenly we have to feel sorry for these corrupt cunts when justice is served to them.

Well, if you were watching Ligue 1, you would see we are actually more robbed penalties than we are being gifted.

Secondly, show me the corruption. I mean actual corruption like the one committed by Marseille who bribed players, referees or even Juventus and other clubs in Italy with Calciopoli.

Or maybe you should use other words.

 

[Leo_Messi]

He's not actively working to block the shot with an illegal part of his body. Arms are moving with the momentum of the rest of his body and he's even keeping them down. Natural position when going up for a block. Nonsense to call this stonewall and you'd be spouting your hyperboles all over the forum if it was the other way calling UEFA mafia etc.
Referring to Skomina as an authority on this after being part of a salty campaign on this forum over Tadić offside call just takes the cake

Doesn't matter anyway. PSG are out. Deserve to be out. Tuchel should probably get another year to correct this, but difficult to tell what you can do to make sure it doesn't happen. Maybe give them a difficult draw?

No he is not in a "natural movement" or trying to keep his arms down. Never called UEFA for any mafia. Nice try though.

Nor was I part of any "salty campaign" over some Tadic offside. Was not even on the forum when that game occurred.

Anyway had his arm (s) been in a natural position (down his body) it would not have been given. There is a reason why defenders tend to have their arms behind the back in the penalty box for this very reason. Not to give a referee the opportunity to give a penalty if hit by the ball. Very simple.

Seems that the VAR officials (there are several) and ultimately Skomina himself agreed. However a user on Barcaforum must know better, I guess? Come on.

LOL at the excuses of trying to use his arm to block a supposed shot that was nowhere near close to hitting him in the face.

I get it, you are sad that QSG went out given your sympathy for them and the fact that they would be a serious opponent for us. More than Man Utd would.

If this is not a penalty the penalty given to RM against Juve last year was nowhere close to being a penalty. Quite sure (without knowing it) that you were defending that with all of your might on this very forum.

 

[El Gato]

And you know this how. Read his mind? All we know is that he has his hand away from the body, and blocks a chance for the opponent with his hand.

Because you can read the damn body language. He's turning away to not get hit in the face. If he cared about blocking the shot by any means necessary, he'd put them up.

 

[serghei]

Because you can read the damn body language. He's turning away to not get hit in the face. If he cared about blocking the shot by any means necessary, he'd put them up.

I see. You make your own rules based on whatever you read in the opponent's body language.

Sorry, but it doesn't work like that. Any rules has objectively measurable factors, that decide a call or not. Is the hand away from the body? Is the player blocking a chance for the other team? Is the shot done close range, is there a ricochet before it touches the player's hand? All these circumstances are in favor of a penalty being dictated for this particular incident.

These measurable factors make it a penalty or not, not purely a subjective guess whether a player meant something or wanted to do something or not. 99% of the penalties for hand ball aren't cases where players actively play handball instead of football, like Suarez vs Ghana. To clearly say he meant it or not.

For me it's a penalty. Don't know if he meant it or not, could be any case here. I do know the player was wreakless. It's not a sliding tackle where you have no control on the arms. It's a jump, similar to the one you do in a wall at a free kick. You see players keeping their hands close all the time.

 

[Newcomer]

Bollocks, yes it was. He's jumping. Very harsh to call these. As close to a natural position as you can get without obviously obstructing path of a direct shot. Otamendi penalty was a far better example of what constitutes such penalty, not this one.

That said, doesn't matter at all. Should have NEVER ever ever let them in within a goal of advancing.

With new rules implemented next year officially, but in use already now, it is considered a penalty.

Penalty on Suarez 2 years ago or the one at Bernabeu were robberies. Here, it is within the scope of the new law.